Research on "High Hook" seat harnesses

[lindseym]

Hey Toby, I ride powered up as much as possible. I'm 220lbs and ride my 16m up to 26-30mph.

Makes me think of that day at EB when the forecast called for 20 and it ended up being 30+. I remember seeing you killing it on your 16m while mark and I were hold barely holding down our 12s.

[lindseym]

My experience is that how your harness looks to others has zero impact on how you ride

'This is very true and well said. Ultimately for me its just a preference.

[Toby]

Hey Toby, I ride powered up as much as possible. I'm 220lbs and ride my 16m up to 26-30mph.

That sounds good! Thx!

[fatkiter]

Mystic Star waist/seat. Best and worst of both worlds.

Bringing this post back from the dead...

Does anyone have experience with this harness? Mystic hybrid Star?

Is it suppotive for people with back problems or is the seat part just to prevent the harness from ridding up?

Thanks

[Kamikuza]

Mystic Star waist/seat. Best and worst of both worlds.

Bringing this post back from the dead...

Does anyone have experience with this harness? Mystic hybrid Star?

Is it suppotive for people with back problems or is the seat part just to prevent the harness from ridding up?

Thanks

Depends how your back hurts — it still puts most of the load into the waist harness, rather than hips like a true seat.

It’s good for free-ride foiling, but I’m using a pure waist for foiling now....

[sarc]

I'm curious as why you think a high hook is better in any way.
In my experience a low hook near your center of gravity is much better for everything: jumping, wave riding, freeriding, looping, rotations.
I know that it takes a few sessions to get used to changes in hook height, but once your muscle memory adapts to the new position you will never go back to a high hook I think.
The pros are very athletic, need complete freedom with their leg movements, and their job is to look cool. And they are not over 40 years old. For mere human riders, a good seat harness is the way to go, especially if you ride hard.

[Windigo1]

I'm curious as why you think a high hook is better in any way.
In my experience a low hook near your center of gravity is much better for everything: jumping, wave riding, freeriding, looping, rotations.
I know that it takes a few sessions to get used to changes in hook height, but once your muscle memory adapts to the new position you will never go back to a high hook I think.
The pros are very athletic, need complete freedom with their leg movements, and their job is to look cool. And they are not over 40 years old. For mere human riders, a good seat harness is the way to go, especially if you ride hard.

Totally agree I prefer a lower hook in a seat harness it brings the trim closer and the center of gravity lower I don't know why you would want a high hook. The low hook is a big part of why people ride seat harness.

[fatkiter]

Depends how your back hurts — it still puts most of the load into the waist harness, rather than hips like a true seat.

It’s good for free-ride foiling, but I’m using a pure waist for foiling now....

I have lower back pain, basically the last 6 discs on my spine have slipped right and left

I wasn't able to do sports for a very long time but surprisingly I never have back pain after kitesurfing (always using a seat harness). Kiteboarding was also my motivation to join the gym and try to improve my back condition

But with kiteboarding I discovered another part of body that can limit your movements : -- knees

[fatkiter]

I'm curious as why you think a high hook is better in any way.
In my experience a low hook near your center of gravity is much better for everything: jumping, wave riding, freeriding, looping, rotations.
I know that it takes a few sessions to get used to changes in hook height, but once your muscle memory adapts to the new position you will never go back to a high hook I think.
The pros are very athletic, need complete freedom with their leg movements, and their job is to look cool. And they are not over 40 years old. For mere human riders, a good seat harness is the way to go, especially if you ride hard.

Basically the search started because I am trying to improve my stance... A few people suggested that the higher hook would help reduce my "pooh stance"

But what made me more curious was reading an article about kitesurfing and the strain it puts on your core muscles and abs... i usually end sessions because my legs get tired and to be honest i never felt my abs working so I was thinking that definitely i am doing something wrong...

I really don t give a sh### about looks I can ride with a dipper even on my head as long as I am ridding

[sarc]

I'm curious as why you think a high hook is better in any way.
In my experience a low hook near your center of gravity is much better for everything: jumping, wave riding, freeriding, looping, rotations.
I know that it takes a few sessions to get used to changes in hook height, but once your muscle memory adapts to the new position you will never go back to a high hook I think.
The pros are very athletic, need complete freedom with their leg movements, and their job is to look cool. And they are not over 40 years old. For mere human riders, a good seat harness is the way to go, especially if you ride hard.

Basically the search started because I am trying to improve my stance... A few people suggested that the higher hook would help reduce my "pooh stance"

But what made me more curious was reading an article about kitesurfing and the strain it puts on your core muscles and abs... i usually end sessions because my legs get tired and to be honest i never felt my abs working so I was thinking that definitely i am doing something wrong...

I really don t give a sh### about looks I can ride with a dipper even on my head as long as I am ridding

Nope nope... waist harness will make poop stance worse because you are trying to pull against a force higher up your body. Proper technique and correctly set footstraps will take care of poop stance.