Trade Winds back to normal

[alamos_kiter]

When we started pumping CO2 into atmosphere at 280 ppm this planet was borderline dead.

Rrrrright. You "win". The "planet was borderline dead" in 1860. You just "handed me my ass", marl.

[Starsky]

Wait, I though Eurus was the ass handler?

[marlboroughman]

Rrrrright. You "win". The "planet was borderline dead" in 1860. You just "handed me my ass", marl.

Yes siree Bob, and so were we.

Mothers so starved during Little Ice Age they produced no milk for their newborn

By Wm. Craig Barnard
During the 1500,s and into the 1750’s the Little ice Age played an amazing role in geo political events as well as area’s of faith.The HUNS came down out of the north of China They became known as the Turks or Turkomen. They were converted to Islam. We all know of the wars surrounding Islam and the west.The Chinese lost – according to available records – 50% (possibly more) of their total population. Europe lost roughly 30%. Some communities were totally decimated losing 90% of their population.People who wanted to carry out business in some form are quoted by historians as saying ” there is no way to carry out commerce, one can’t find products or others to build them”.Additionally currencies were useless as govt was not able to stand behind the value. Having gold and silver was of no use either as no one could value it at a present value.The Roman church has the “Office of the Inquisitor”. The office was created to test the faith of those who opposed the Romans authority and to punish it’s enemies. This office is headed up by the Jesuits today. It has never seen one change in it’s role, orders or authorizations as relates to the mission of the church and it’s laws. People in the time of the Little ice Age when cold was the most severe actually sold new born children as food to others. Mother’s could not feed the children. The mothers were so starved themselves they produced no milk for their new born.Today the Roman Church, like in the days of old is trying to bring changes to economies and governance of nations that will place them back into greater authority. They still wish to control the dialogue and beliefs of men.Watch very closely as they push for a world-wide day of worship on Sunday. It’s already starting as they threatened areas in the Micronesian Islands with starvation if they would not legalize a Sunday worship law. This goes directly against the 4th Commandment of GOD in HIS 10 Commandments.The Roman Church has always used poverty to control people. As will the US under progressives and all other socialist progressive govts.

[L0KI]

We can argue the point of global warming as a reality or non reality.
We can argue for the continuation of burning fossil fuels versus trying to design and perfect methods of getting off the oil addiction.
We can even waste our time calling each other dirty hippy commi atheist idiot liberals versus stick up your ass, denying, religious zealot, nut job right wing conservatives.
But it can't be anything but a good idea to attempt treating the earth's eco systems like they are not invincible.
Nobody enjoys living in a filthy shitehole, and until we drastically change our behavior or the human population gets reduced to the point where the earth can become pristine again without us changing any other behavior....things will get worse, and it is possible that we can dick around long enough for it to be too late for several systems to repair themselves.

[marlboroughman]

Trying to think of what to call, hopeless liberals who want to bring carbon tax upon us, without getting my message deleted by moderator.....mission impossible !@#$%^&*()_+

[Kamikuza]

It might turned out that by burning dead fossils thus returning CO2 back to where it came from in the first place we are saving ourselves from starvation when the Climate turns cold. You got a lot of milk to drink before you make those connections.

So that's an admission that burning fossil fuels adds carbon and CO2 to the environment and will alter the climate. Isn't your whole point that mankind's activities CAN'T alter the climate?!

[Kamikuza]

When we started pumping CO2 into atmosphere at 280 ppm this planet was borderline dead.

Rrrrright. You "win". The "planet was borderline dead" in 1860. You just "handed me my ass", marl.

Just like "The Day After Tomorrow"--the northern hemisphere is fucked IT'S THE END OF CIVILIZATION excuse me but the weather is lovely in the south...

[alamos_kiter]

That

It might turned out that by burning dead fossils thus returning CO2 back to where it came from in the first place we are saving ourselves from starvation when the Climate turns cold.

So that's an admission that burning fossil fuels adds carbon and CO2 to the environment and will alter the climate. Isn't your whole point that mankind's activities CAN'T alter the climate?!

and that

...it can't be anything but a good idea to attempt treating the earth's eco systems like they are not invincible.
Nobody enjoys living in a filthy shitehole, and until we drastically change our behavior or the human population gets reduced to the point where the earth can become pristine again without us changing any other behavior....things will get worse, and it is possible that we can dick around long enough for it to be too late for several systems to repair themselves.

nicely sums it up.

You just proved that you believe manmade climate change IS a reality Marl.

[Eurus]

We can argue the point of global warming as a reality or non reality.
We can argue for the continuation of burning fossil fuels versus trying to design and perfect methods of getting off the oil addiction.
We can even waste our time calling each other dirty hippy commi atheist idiot liberals versus stick up your ass, denying, religious zealot, nut job right wing conservatives.
But it can't be anything but a good idea to attempt treating the earth's eco systems like they are not invincible.
Nobody enjoys living in a filthy shitehole, and until we drastically change our behavior or the human population gets reduced to the point where the earth can become pristine again without us changing any other behavior....things will get worse, and it is possible that we can dick around long enough for it to be too late for several systems to repair themselves.

No one is arguing about the existence of global warming. That's nothing more than part of the Earth's cycle. The debate the liberals keep getting their asses handed to them on are that is it not man made.

If you REALLY want to make a change and aren't being just another "dirty, hippy, commi, atheist, idiot", liberal then start by stop buying anything produced from the use or consumption of fossil fuels.

I've put together a list (below) of all goods you can buy that were not produced through either the consumption or use of fossil fuels:

NOTHING

So your answer is to do what exactly as an alternative? We should all protest by no longer buying goods and services? Whether you admit it or not...YOU are just as big a part of the problem as we all are. Those plants that make the stuff we buy only make the stuff we buy because we drive the market for the stuff we buy. Don't want pollution anymore? Then stop wanting stuff.

[NYKiter]

Sept 9
Australia's "Turnbull announced $300 million to help the Pacific manage climate change and improve disaster resilience. Over the next four years we’ll provide $300 million to Pacific island countries including $75 million for disaster preparedness."