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When will those one pump hoses go inside the kite. Octopus style?

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Re: When will those one pump hoses go inside the kite. Octopus style?

Postby FredBGG » Wed Aug 17, 2016 8:29 am

marekmk wrote:The octopus naish system is great till you have to repair it. Time consuming, very fidlie and if you have bigs hands forget it!
Hmmmm. I had no problem fixing mine. Large hands (and feet... size 15 wide).

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Re: When will those one pump hoses go inside the kite. Octopus style?

Postby aeberl » Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:24 am

Get a strutless kite.... problem solved!

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Re: When will those one pump hoses go inside the kite. Octopus style?

Postby FredBGG » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:21 am

aeberl wrote:Get a strutless kite.... problem solved!
Until the wind is less than perfect. IMO there are many times where a 5 strut or least a 3 strut kite work better.

Just yesterday with shitty shifty gusty wind all the guys on newer 2 strut and 1 strut kites had a miserable time while me and a friend... both older and bigger..... had a great session, but we were both riding 5 strut kites. W were way upwind while the other guys could not stay upwind, even with a 12m.

In really strong winds I prefer 3 or 5 struts.


Few struts or no struts is more about kite company profit than best handling.

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Re: When will those one pump hoses go inside the kite. Octopus style?

Postby Starsky » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:20 am

There are likely far more sessions where a 5 strut kite lags behind or simply can't keep it up. One or no struts have earned their place.

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Re: When will those one pump hoses go inside the kite. Octopus style?

Postby FLandOBX » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:43 am

Let's retire this thread.

We agree on this: Some people like Naish kites with the octopus system but, like all other brands, they aren't universally popular and they aren't for everybody. End of story.

Saw an old video of Robbie Naish a few days ago. Dude could totally rip (both on a windsurfer and a kiteboard). :thumb:

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Re: When will those one pump hoses go inside the kite. Octopus style?

Postby Gonzolinho » Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:03 pm

Ludmil wrote:
marekmk wrote:The octopus naish system is great till you have to repair it. Time consuming, very fidlie and if you have bigs hands forget it!
Hey I am confused!
You repeating the same over and over like mantra.

Probably it's my mistake or I am receiving some different kind of kites with the same brand printed...?
Say, have you had a closer look to a Naish kite (hmm, let me think), in the last 5 - 6 years?

Yes, I had the rare and golden chance to repair these particular kites, but do you?

Two times in total, for the last 10 years to be precise - 2007 and 2 years ago.

Guys, maybe the Trip is your best bet ;)
Me, too. Two times only. But they were two times too much. Congrats to your small hands I'm not lucky enough.
Also, when I'm lazy, I keep the struts inflated, when I know that I use the kite on the next day again. Mostly after two hours the air was gone of the struts, which shows that the system is not real leak proof. Never had this with the hose and clamp solution.
Last time I lost the mini clamps/brackets that keep the connectors in place. OK, my fault. But think what! Asked three of the biggest importers for them as a spare part. I even don't have them now after 5 months. Answer in all requests was "cannot order them". I made them myself and cut them out of some pvc foil. But this is more than poor for a brand like Naish. I can only repeat myself by saying that the Octopus system is a pain in the a$$.

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Re: When will those one pump hoses go inside the kite. Octopus style?

Postby Ludmil » Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:49 pm

Hey, my comments in this tread are not exactly "Naish" related, rather how this system works or not.
Brand or product personal choice is something I am not willing to dig in to.

Here are few pics I just made,which I believe worth thousand words.
This is my 8m Torch and furthest to the tip strut (thinnest as possible).

I am not having small hands, and I don't think this is a constraint to fix my kite if necessary.


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Re: When will those one pump hoses go inside the kite. Octopus style?

Postby FredBGG » Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:44 pm

Starsky wrote:There are likely far more sessions where a 5 strut kite lags behind or simply can't keep it up. One or no struts have earned their place.
Main advantage I see with 2 strut or no strut kites is with low wind. Can also help in low winds where most of the time it's rather low wind, but you have to deal with bursts of more wind. Due to the lack of structure you can get more depower when the canopy flutters in the center.

Personally I prefer a kite with more structure as soon as I'm not dealing with low wind.


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