jonysan wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:03 pm
What wind speed do most people Foil in ? was out the other day the wind speed was around 20 knots, a Foil rider came past , and I'm thinking " that's look interesting, and brave" . so it can be done in high -ish winds. e.g. Racing.
I read about low wind Foiling on this forum, does it require a lightweight foil kite? as for example my 12m Pivot will launch in about ten knots on the beach but would be very tricky to get going , and very likely fall out the sky. Or, is the answer lightweight single strut, or strutless.
Just don't fancy dropping the kite , when a quarter mile offshore, with little chance of relaunch.
Have seen video of Strutless kites relaunching "backwards"
sorry for the amount of questions,
I learned to foil on a 12m Rebel, which I had for twin tip boards. The Rebel does a lot of things great, but hanging in the air at the low end of its range is not one of them. I did a lot of swimming in on days in the 10kn range. (I even had some well-meaning but clueless tourists call the coast guard when my kite hindenburged on me about 800 yards from shore at sunset. The wind was side-on and I made it to shore right as they were pulling the sled on the beach.)
I eventually got a lighter 12m LEI that hangs in the air much better than the Rebel. I went the Liquid Force Wow. It's not the lightest kite out there and it has 3 struts, but I got a good deal on it. I've never tested the low end just flying on the beach, but the low end for me being able to get up on the foil is 8kn. (I weigh 185lbs.) I will usually have to loop the kite a bunch of times to get up on the foil in 8kn and if it goes in the water I'm probably swimming in. I can usually water relaunch at 9kn by sitting on the board, getting the kite around to the side of the window, and pumping the center lines when I feel a little gust.
So the long-winded answer to your question is that a lighter kite is necessary to get going safely in the sub 10kn range. For me and my equipment, 8kn is about the lower limit to get up and going. I have never tried a kite bigger than 12m for foiling, but my guess is that I might be able to squeeze maybe 1 more knot out of the low end with a 14m+. I have also never tried a foil kite, but my guess is that I might be able to squeeze another 2kn out of the low end with a foil kite. For me, those extra 1-2kn just aren't worth the expense, hassle, and risk of getting either a bigger LEI or a foil kite.