john a wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:26 pm
Faxie wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:15 pm
I removed all the ripstop from my kites, so now I have X24. Beat that! At least 20 years ahead of their time now
I'd rather see some cold hard data or video's.
Think there is a lot more to it than just the ripstop... Coating among others...
Tie-in themselves say it is stronger and stiffer. They do deliver to most major kite brands so should know these things...
There are some statistics out there on the old 4xrip, with the old coating...
Coating is a very important factor, but somehow I don't think the coating is that different with this cloth. Afaik there's no coating of the yarn before weaving too btw, as how North advertises. Polyester has a low UV resistance, so that's what needs protection mostly. Coating keeps the weave tight too, so improves stretch properties. And the current cloth is all high tenacity polyester if I'm not mistaken.
But I still see Core's, North, Naish, Ozone etc rip to shreads, repairman that I talk to sometimes says he didn't see a decrease in repairs since D2. Truth is the forces acting on the canopy when it's ripping are so big, no ripstop is gonna stop that.
Funny in that regard that there's no single ripstop with smaller segments. Guess you can't market that as well a multiple ripstop... but now we're at quadruple, it's starting to get a bit ridiculous... so what's the next step?
Don't forget that companies like Teijin have to compete with other suppliers too. Of course their new stuff is better.