Contact   Imprint   Advertising   Guidelines

Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope

Forum for kitesurfers
alford
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 816
Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:53 pm
Gear: all brands
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 101 times
Been thanked: 46 times

Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope

Postby alford » Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:37 pm

Dude, you sound terrified.

rjkritzer
Rare Poster
Posts: 35
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:32 am
Kiting since: 2014
Local Beach: Lakes Bay
Favorite Beaches: OBX, TCI, Jersey Shore, St. Croix
Style: Freeride
Gear: Kitelement split board, Cabrinha SB (6, 9, 12) Contra 15m. LF Impulse Foil, Clouds
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 20 times
Been thanked: 3 times

Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope

Postby rjkritzer » Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:06 am

rjkritzer wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:49 pm
daspi wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:03 pm
2021-07-07 13.51.38.jpg

This setup allows me to use the fireball to connect directly to the ring without the need for the bottom metal part as previously posted.
Thanks - I have also thought about not using the lower part - the fireball - and connecting the safety release to a ring as you show (but on a slider rope). I would keep the fireball connection on the spreader bar as well as the rope slider, and think this gives several advantages such as it being very simple, and allowing to attach the fireball without changing bars or harness. My only hesitation is with sand getting into the safety release mechanism since there will no longer be a cover on the lower part. Have you had any issues with this?

I added a slider rope with a 1” welded stainless steel ring to my Fireball spreader bar. I used 3/16” dyneema. The spreader bar had 1/8” holes at the upper edge so I drilled those out to 1/4” - this was the toughest part as the aluminum seemed very hard. Here is a pic!
Attachments
A2E196ED-49CA-4949-A807-582EDA6AA8E9.jpeg

matth
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 2135
Joined: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:18 pm
Local Beach: Revere, Nahant, Chapin, West Dennis, Hardings , Kalmus, First Encounter, Dog, yerril, Wing
Favorite Beaches: Wing, West Dennis, Kalmus, Chapin, Revere, Nahant, Dog, Horse Neck, Good Harbor, Yerrill
Style: Freeride
Gear: 7m Slash, 10m Pivot, 10m Slash, 12m Pivot. Firewire Vadar, Duotone Profish, Crazyfly Raptor ltd
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 81 times
Been thanked: 100 times

Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope

Postby matth » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:03 pm

I don't think the Fireball or similar setup will ever give you the true effect of a sliding harness. Seems to me that even though it flips from side to side like a slider the tug point is still fixed in the middle. A true slider moves that tug point more towards your hips which feels more natural and causes less twisting with your harness...IMO
These users thanked the author matth for the post:
Greenturtle (Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:45 am)
Rating: 3.03%

User avatar
daspi
Frequent Poster
Posts: 230
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:55 am
Kiting since: 2010
Local Beach: Lynn - Nahant Long Beach, Revere Beach, Dog Beach
Favorite Beaches: The beach I can get to within 10-15 minutes
Gear: Neo 9/7m, Eleveight FS 12m, 9m and Core XR5 7m, Core Section 8,10,12m
and lots of other junk kites in the shed
Cabrinha Custom, Duotone Jamie Textreme
Surfboards: F-ONE Mitu 5'6", Tomo Vader, Kiteloose Nirvana, Cabrinha Skillit
Foil: F-ONE Pocket with Cloud 9 mast and wing
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 14 times
Been thanked: 24 times

Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope

Postby daspi » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:08 pm

I have a slider version too. Trying to figure out what I like better. Good thing on the Dakine bar I did not need to drill any holes. Simply looped around the ends. Works like a charm.
2021-07-14 11.04.07.jpg
2021-07-07 13.51.38.jpg

nixmatters
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 963
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:38 pm
Kiting since: 2009
Style: freeride. started foiling, not there yet
Gear: mostly custom made
Brand Affiliation: None currently
Has thanked: 363 times
Been thanked: 246 times

Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope

Postby nixmatters » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:11 pm

rjkritzer wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:06 am
...The spreader bar had 1/8” holes at the upper edge so I drilled those out to 1/4” - this was the toughest part as the aluminum seemed very hard. Here is a pic!
It's stainless steel, not aluminum :wink:

P.S. I like that setup a lot!
These users thanked the author nixmatters for the post:
rjkritzer (Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:55 pm)
Rating: 3.03%

matth
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 2135
Joined: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:18 pm
Local Beach: Revere, Nahant, Chapin, West Dennis, Hardings , Kalmus, First Encounter, Dog, yerril, Wing
Favorite Beaches: Wing, West Dennis, Kalmus, Chapin, Revere, Nahant, Dog, Horse Neck, Good Harbor, Yerrill
Style: Freeride
Gear: 7m Slash, 10m Pivot, 10m Slash, 12m Pivot. Firewire Vadar, Duotone Profish, Crazyfly Raptor ltd
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 81 times
Been thanked: 100 times

Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope

Postby matth » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:13 pm

daspi wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:08 pm
I have a slider version too. Trying to figure out what I like better. Good thing on the Dakine bar I did not need to drill any holes. Simply looped around the ends. Works like a charm.
2021-07-14 11.04.07.jpg2021-07-07 13.51.38.jpg

Lol....I think i saw that same setup yesterday...

Maybe a BEK day today....watching🤔

rjkritzer
Rare Poster
Posts: 35
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:32 am
Kiting since: 2014
Local Beach: Lakes Bay
Favorite Beaches: OBX, TCI, Jersey Shore, St. Croix
Style: Freeride
Gear: Kitelement split board, Cabrinha SB (6, 9, 12) Contra 15m. LF Impulse Foil, Clouds
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 20 times
Been thanked: 3 times

Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope

Postby rjkritzer » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:52 pm

nixmatters wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:11 pm
rjkritzer wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:06 am
...The spreader bar had 1/8” holes at the upper edge so I drilled those out to 1/4” - this was the toughest part as the aluminum seemed very hard. Here is a pic!
It's stainless steel, not aluminum :wink:

P.S. I like that setup a lot!
LOL - That explains it! It looks like aluminum, but glad to know it is stainless. :P

nixmatters
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 963
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:38 pm
Kiting since: 2009
Style: freeride. started foiling, not there yet
Gear: mostly custom made
Brand Affiliation: None currently
Has thanked: 363 times
Been thanked: 246 times

Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope

Postby nixmatters » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:58 pm

rjkritzer wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:52 pm
nixmatters wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:11 pm
rjkritzer wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:06 am
...The spreader bar had 1/8” holes at the upper edge so I drilled those out to 1/4” - this was the toughest part as the aluminum seemed very hard. Here is a pic!
It's stainless steel, not aluminum :wink:

P.S. I like that setup a lot!
LOL - That explains it! It looks like aluminum, but glad to know it is stainless. :P
The NP one is aluminum, much lighter weight, but only works with a 40mm webbing. If you are in the US you can get it for nothing, but without the pad it works well on seat harness only
http://www.adventurekiteboarding.com/ca ... inum-25cm/
Attachments
np-fireball.png

User avatar
Greenturtle
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 980
Joined: Fri May 12, 2017 6:51 pm
Local Beach: Presque Isle, Erie PA
Favorite Beaches: Bahamian Cays
Gear: Edge 19, Flite 17, 14.5, 12, 10, 8, Cloud 13.4, 10.4, 8, 6.2, 3.7
Tons of boards for water, land, and snow
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 241 times
Been thanked: 277 times

Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope

Postby Greenturtle » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:45 am

matth wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:03 pm
I don't think the Fireball or similar setup will ever give you the true effect of a sliding harness. Seems to me that even though it flips from side to side like a slider the tug point is still fixed in the middle. A true slider moves that tug point more towards your hips which feels more natural and causes less twisting with your harness...IMO
Yep


Return to “Kitesurfing”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: andylc, Baptiste_FR, basti52406, DanielorDani, Google [Bot], grigorib, IvanoKite, nothing2seehere, Peter_Frank, Smeagle, SolarSet, tilmann, vladi elthve, WS79, y2kBug, Yahoo [Bot] and 364 guests