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Torch 2018

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:23 pm
by Kehler
Anyone tried the new Naish Torch 2018 ? :thumb:

Thanks

Re: Torch 2018

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:54 pm
by mago
yep. 14/12/10/8 m sizes. great kites. not much difference from the 2017 models beside a more reinforced trailing edge.

Re: Torch 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:10 pm
by Kehler
What do you Think about the low end? When you sail with your boys, do you need to go up in size compaired to your boys, you are saling with?
Thanks

Re: Torch 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:18 pm
by LorenzoS
I'm also curious about the Torch 2018 low end as the 2017 was lacking some compare to the 2016. Any difference?

Thanks!

Re: Torch 2018

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:03 am
by Kehler
Have the less good lowend something to do with the new bar they presented in 2017?. I think otherwise it's a really nice bar

Re: Torch 2018

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:31 pm
by LorenzoS
Kehler wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:03 am
Have the less good lowend something to do with the new bar they presented in 2017?. I think otherwise it's a really nice bar
I don't think so as I've used the 2017 bar on older Torches and it works very well with similar low end power.

Re: Torch 2018

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:43 pm
by Kehler
Hmm. Have you tried moving knots on bar? From knot B to knot A? If so any good?
Also the Torch in 14m how is the upwind ect. Compaired to 12m? Thinking of having a quiver of 10,12,14. At moment I have the 10 and 12.
Thanks

Re: Torch 2018

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:44 am
by mago
look, the answer is pretty simple.
the 2017 bars were coming with a 5th line too short. this was creating lack in low end and as well different feeling on the bar when performing unhooked tricks.

i'm not sure why Naish has not informed the market about it. true is that starting from the 14m kite, i added 15cm or slightly more to the 5th line.
the kite is flying way better, shape is more C and it creates more power in low end, but as well, way more slack in the trix.
If you do not have any extension line to be used, use the ESP connector (the longer one) to add to the 5th line. on the 14 you need 15/17cm.
on the 12 you need 13/14cm
on the 10 you need 10/11 cm
on the 8 you need 8cm

do your test and you will be very happy of the result. make also sure that the bar is trimmed properly. keep always in mind that after some sessions, there is always a bit of extension on the lines, although they are pre-stretched.

the 2018, that should have had this issue sorted, comes with a different 5th line, but still, from my point of view is not sufficient. i'm running on 10cm extension more or less across the range.

i'm using 2 bars, one for 12 and 14, and one for 10 and 8m.

Hope this help,
F

Re: Torch 2018

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:45 am
by mago
Kehler wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:10 pm
What do you Think about the low end? When you sail with your boys, do you need to go up in size compaired to your boys, you are saling with?
Thanks
the kite is similar in low end to all the other same size kite. 14m torch = 15 Razor/ 14.5 vegas

Re: Torch 2018

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:53 am
by mago
Kehler wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:43 pm
Hmm. Have you tried moving knots on bar? From knot B to knot A? If so any good?
Also the Torch in 14m how is the upwind ect. Compaired to 12m? Thinking of having a quiver of 10,12,14. At moment I have the 10 and 12.
Thanks
the knots on the backlines will make sure the kite will fly correctly. attach the line to a single point, hook in to the loop and lay back creating tension on the lines. make sure the lines are all equally long and full power, the bar set at the end of the depower, touching the c-loop.
should look like this..

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