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Naish Park/Dash - like kite but not Naish?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:47 pm
by czezz
Hey, im looking for kite similar to Naish Park/Dash (responsiveness/feeling on the bar) but not Naish?
Any suggestions? :)

Re: Naish Park/Dash - like kite but not Naish?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:11 am
by jakemoore
Did Naish lick the sugar off your candy?

Re: Naish Park/Dash - like kite but not Naish?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:07 am
by czezz
Haha, kinda ;)
I did have amazing last 4-5 years riding Naish Park and it would be still my only choice... but the octopus system.
I want to find something similar but octopus-free.

Re: Naish Park/Dash - like kite but not Naish?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:04 pm
by knotwindy
Oh, now you’re going to make taut mad...

Re: Naish Park/Dash - like kite but not Naish?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:29 pm
by Ludmil
If they (Naish) start designing kites without Octopus I'll stop buying them. Hahaha
L.

Re: Naish Park/Dash - like kite but not Naish?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:45 pm
by edt
I think some of the Epic kites that dimitri maramenides sells are a little bit like the Naish lineup that you like so much. Try contacting him to see if you can get a demo. Sorry I can't remember the exact model names.

Re: Naish Park/Dash - like kite but not Naish?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:29 pm
by tautologies
knotwindy wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:04 pm
Oh, now you’re going to make taut mad...

Re: Naish Park/Dash - like kite but not Naish?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:07 pm
by tautologies
One of the things that is hard about recommending a kite similar to something else is that very few has enough time on two completely different kites to say much intelligent about it. I've certainly not ridden another kite that had the same qualities a the Dash in terms of responsiveness and how it likes to be flown.

OP: How old are your Parks? Is it still the 2013 you have in your profile? What is your main objection against the Octopussy system? I am genuinely interested because they have made some improvements that made it easier to access the internal workings on the kites in case of something happening.

Re: Naish Park/Dash - like kite but not Naish?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:34 pm
by Gonzolinho
CRAZYFLY Tango and OZONE Enduro might be your way to go.
I mainly turned away from Naish because of the same reason. My last issue I had was with a fronttube bladder of a 2016 Pivot. My third and last Naish bladder repair ever. The hardest "petting" I´ve ever had.
Don´t let yourself get fooled by a few fanboys here that will bash you as soon as you say something against the greatest invention in kitesurf history....
Only have two Dashs right now because they are really nice and I get them for a bargain.
But in general I prefer the OZONE Enduro. Very nice and even more versatile.

CRAZYFLY Tango: a bit more lowend by the means of lateral pull. Otherwise they are quite similar. Maybe the Tango a bit slower turning and better for unhooked and the Dash a bit more aggressive and quicker response. But we are talking about peanuts here.
OZONE Enduro: Depending on the setting (you can change by 3 different ones) it sits even further forward than the Dash. In comparsion it has a bit less lowend but is even a bit quicker so you can get out the same amount of it if you move it right. More versatile and a lot smoother in the upper end but with the same abilities in performance.

It comes to your personal preference what you like. All three kites are very close together. I reckon with kiting skills below the ones of a Kevin Langaree you will be as good as with any of them. Choose color or personal taste and it will be ok. All three kites are far above anybodies level/skills. I personally like the Enduro most because of its better versatility when switching between twintip and directional and more smoothness in power delivery. But the same reasons might be a turn off for somebody else....

Forgot to mention that the Ednuro is very lightweight and together with its position in the wind window it is also great for foiling if this sounds interesting, too?
I would call the Enduro the "Switchblade" of open C kite shapes if you get the point.
Others might perform a hint better in one niche but they don´t have the overall sweetness of the Enduro.....and it doesn´t have any octopus :wink:

Just demoed a CABRINHA FX some weeks ago and really liked it. But it is more "C" biased and with lower AR compared to the Dash. But though quick it is extremely stable in the air and with great hangtime for a kite like this. If I would not own a complete set of Enduros I would have a hard choice right now myself :lol:

Re: Naish Park/Dash - like kite but not Naish?

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:03 am
by tautologies
Gonzolinho wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:34 pm
Don´t let yourself get fooled by a few fanboys here that will bash you as soon as you say something against the greatest invention in kitesurf history....
When did anyone "bash" people for having an opinion. Or do you just mean that someone has a different opinion and says it? I like the system and I h ave no issues saying it, but I do not think I ever bashed anyone for any reason really.

Anyway I think it is great that we have different opinions here. It means we can learn from each other.