Just wanted to save this from some COREporate mandated editing. Good info as used kites may be coming down with more kites on the market and less buyers. Also watch for closeouts on brands that have never had closeouts before.CaptainCore wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:24 amAnd if you think it doesn't matter, this summer here in supposedly cold foggy and windy England, saw some kite suppliers saying their business was 60% down according to my pal who runs iksurf magazine, this thanks to the most windless and hottest summer on record. Even our own sales stalled for the first time in the four years since we re-engaged after the Slingshot drama, this August did not exceed last August and numbers were down.
UK figures are unlikely to affect world kite prices, but as we all know, it's a global village, numbers are not exactly soaring away given the maturity of the market, so any decline in numbers equals price hikes which none of us want. Kite prices have gone beyond the point that any of us feel really comfortable about and you only have to look at what happened with windsurfing business, higher prices equals fewer people equals even higher prices. That's without considering the liklihood of a tariff war and its effect on us.
So all in all, a gloomy outlook without wishing to further ruin your monday morning too much.
Doesn't work like that I'm afraid, all that happens is less get built by all brands so the OEM builders with fixed overheads and in some cases increased material and even labour costs, put up the unit cost. We need a constant flow of entry level participants to hopefully outweigh the wastage from those that move on. As to discounting on a large scale I think it unlikely that Cabrinha under their new financial constraints will be building much to close out and I'm fairly sure North/Duo will have had a chill wind blow through with all their marketing spend, certainly here in the UK which was a big market for them and at this time I've no idea what the European market has been like this year but chances are if we're down up to 60 percent it can't have been good for them, since they are the clear market leader, not a good year to decide to change brand name. Nothing marketing spend can do to overcome the ravages of a bad weather season, ask the ski/snowboard industry.
Your temperature graph was from a small number of locations in Scotland and of summer temperatures only. Globally, temperatures are rising. Nobody denies this.marlboroughman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:27 pmYou tell me, what the hell does it mean 2C limit over the preindustrial era while looking at the temp graph I just posted? You give this genius a Nobel prize?
The thing is, it's not the BBC. It's the U.N. It's based on more than 6,000 scientific references and contributions from thousands of experts and government researchers from around the world. And it's being reported by every reputable news organization in the world.marlboroughman wrote:BBC - That's a beauty
I do, based on real ice core research.
At least I still observe what's outside my window and you do not even bother to do that. I've been also observing the water level at different locations around the world for the past 30 yrs. So what prediction of that UN army of bureaucrats actually came trough for you in the past 30 yrs? Name one.
As mentioned before this graph represents a temperature anomaly in a small area and only for a few months per year. I think the 2C applies to a global annual average. But I think If you'd look at the graph properly you'd see that an average increase of 2C would mean a whole lot.marlboroughman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:27 pmYou tell me, what the hell does it mean 2C limit over the preindustrial era while looking at the temp graph I just posted? You give this genius a Nobel prize?
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