Contact   Imprint   Advertising   Guidelines

Kite Release Training

Forum for kitesurfers
Windstoked
Medium Poster
Posts: 120
Joined: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:23 am
Local Beach: Thermalito Afterbay and Sherman Island, California
Gear: Core
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 2 times

Kite Release Training

Postby Windstoked » Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:41 pm

After a number of serious accidents at our local kitespots here in Northern California, it has become increasingly obvious that many kiters are not adequately prepared to quickly release their kite in an emergency. Instructors should include real-life situation training on usage of the quick release and safety leash release.
It seems that many kiters freeze up when it really counts, and sometimes one or two seconds of hesitation can mean the difference between life and death.
Everyone easily releases a kite standing on the beach, but doing it while being towed at 15 mph in the water or along the ground is a much more difficult skill, and I think training in those situations should be standard.

User avatar
edt
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 7328
Joined: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:27 am
Kiting since: 2010
Local Beach: Michigan
Gear: ride hard, no regrets
Has thanked: 533 times
Been thanked: 668 times

Re: Kite Release Training

Postby edt » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:03 pm

I agree everyone needs training.

I think quick release training is sufficient. Most people who freeze up have not used their quick release in years. Maybe the last time they used it is when the bought the control bar.

So you want to do this training:

First exercise: With the QR under tension (using a post is sufficient, kite in the air is even better) use the QR. Repeat once a week minimum. This builds sufficient muscle memory so that when something happens you will be automatically able to use the QR without even knowing when you did it. It will just happen.

Second exercise: Create a chicken line wrap on the control bar so that the QR will not release the flag out line. Put tension on the lines (attach them to a post or something). use the QR. Wait one second. Now use the leash release. You want that 1 second pause because it takes that long to know you will need to do a full release. Practice this second exercise about 10 times, you only need to do this exercise once a year or so.

You don't need to be in a "real life situation". Doing these kinds of QR exercises is entirely sufficient for building proper muscle memory.

This is a discussion we have had on the forums many times. Developing that muscle memory is the single best way to give yourself a chance to use the QR before it's too late.

SaltWaterDog
Medium Poster
Posts: 185
Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:01 pm
Local Beach: Copenhagen, most of Denmark and northern Germany.
Style: Biting off more than I can usually chew.
Gear: XR5, Fusion 3.
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Kite Release Training

Postby SaltWaterDog » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:23 pm

Instructors and kiters alike. Kiters should regularly practice QR and full self rescue. If you’re a half decent sailor you do capsize drills. Same should go for kiters.

we
Medium Poster
Posts: 93
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:29 pm
Local Beach: Huguenot, Atlantic Beach Jax
Favorite Beaches: Vieux Fort, St. Lucia
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 6 times

Re: Kite Release Training

Postby we » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:35 pm

Not everyone kites in a place where you can practice.

User avatar
FLandOBX
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1765
Joined: Sun May 04, 2014 1:58 am
Kiting since: 2007
Weight: 81 kg
Local Beach: Hatteras Island, North Carolina, USA
Central Florida, USA
Style: Freeride, Airstyle, Hydrofoil
Gear: Cab. Apollos, Cab. Contra One-Struts, FS Speed 4, FS Souls, Axis Ltd 132, RRD Poison 135, SS Ankle Biter, Moses 633, 679 & 590, SS Dwarfcraft 100cm, LF Galaxy 4'2"
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 183 times
Been thanked: 219 times

Re: Kite Release Training

Postby FLandOBX » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:55 pm

I agree that practicing QR and self rescue is essential to safe kiting. The more practice, the better.

While the OP's suggestion of simulating emergency/serious accident situations in lessons sounds good, I don't think it would work well in practice. How would an instructor (safely) create that experience for a beginner, who 9 times out of 10 really only cares about getting up on the board any way? Simply having a novice understand how the QR systems work is a huge challenge in a beginner lesson, primarily because of the volume of information and tasks that the student shoulders over the course of 3 hours. The best an instructor can do is to make certain the student understands how the QR systems work (how to properly connect and use a kite leash), practices using the emergency sytems both on land and in the water, and performs a simulated self-rescue at the end of the lesson.

The approach recommended by edt and saltwaterdog is more realistic and more effective--i.e., periodic practice of the skills throughout our kiting "careers". A kiteboarder who can fly a kite and ride a board will benefit far more from self-practicing QR and self-rescue skills than a student who is just trying to figure out how to pump the kite and connect the lines.

matth
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 2135
Joined: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:18 pm
Local Beach: Revere, Nahant, Chapin, West Dennis, Hardings , Kalmus, First Encounter, Dog, yerril, Wing
Favorite Beaches: Wing, West Dennis, Kalmus, Chapin, Revere, Nahant, Dog, Horse Neck, Good Harbor, Yerrill
Style: Freeride
Gear: 7m Slash, 10m Pivot, 10m Slash, 12m Pivot. Firewire Vadar, Duotone Profish, Crazyfly Raptor ltd
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 81 times
Been thanked: 100 times

Re: Kite Release Training

Postby matth » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:02 pm

I used this simulator when learning and now I am using it with my son. Great way to build muscle memory. All you need is two bungees and three screwdrivers ....works great, feels just like sheeting in and out.
Attachments
kite 10.jpg
kite 11.jpg

Matteo V
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Kite Release Training

Postby Matteo V » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:55 pm

The first thing I teach on a trainer kite is that letting go of the bar is the release.

When moving on to a depower kite, I drill the release activation with no tension to simulate having run through the lines at the kite. So the statement by 'we' "Not everyone kites in a place where you can practice", is not correct. You can and should practice the release with no tension. This builds the "muscle memory" to activate with both hands, or either hand since both hands need to go to the release when there is no tension on the lines.

And to be clear, I would avoid releasing a kite that I over ran, even if I am in a line. It is kind of a risk both ways, release first or wait to see if you can power up the kite without a detrimental tangle.

knotwindy
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 2388
Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:49 am
Local Beach: baja, gorge
Style: erratic to none
Gear: yes, I use gear
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 275 times
Been thanked: 319 times

Re: Kite Release Training

Postby knotwindy » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:01 pm

For the vast majority of people who this situation would apply to and never unhook anyway, changing the way the qr attaches to the harness would solve a great many of these problems. Without the hook, whether using a rope or fixed ring attached to the harness bar, every time you launch and every time you land you have to use the qr. Builds muscle memory and retains it better than any other method. You can not forget or put it off, you have to use it every time you go out. It also checks to make sure the qr is actually working because pulling the release is not the only problem you can have releasing in an emergency, it could be stuck if you don’t check regularly.
As an aside, it also makes toeside riding much easier & depending upon the setup can increase you bar throw which can improve safety as well.

SaltWaterDog
Medium Poster
Posts: 185
Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:01 pm
Local Beach: Copenhagen, most of Denmark and northern Germany.
Style: Biting off more than I can usually chew.
Gear: XR5, Fusion 3.
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Kite Release Training

Postby SaltWaterDog » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:16 am

we wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:35 pm
Not everyone kites in a place where you can practice.
Not sure what you mean. If you’re in an area where you can kite, you can practice self rescue.

OzBungy
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 2759
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:35 am
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 220 times

Re: Kite Release Training

Postby OzBungy » Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:50 am

When you do these exercises, make the person shut their eyes, turn them around 3 times, then blast them i the face with a hose while they do the quick release thing. Make sure you do it for primary and secondary releases.

Don't forget to practice with the bar and/or leaders trapped under the harness hook.


Return to “Kitesurfing”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ak200, Baidu [Spider], Bing [Bot], duddd, Google [Bot], ham-er, jhonson, Kemperman, Nak, Rickshawjimmy, womble, wowkitesurf, Yahoo [Bot] and 375 guests