foilholio wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:43 amSimply I think they are unnecessary for me and many others.
If you, others and the shops think their existence is necessary, then they should face the free market. If the major brands made their gear available to the general public at the same prices they supply the shops, then their true value can be gauged. If they all survive that then they are needed.
Yes with such arrangements there is problems with support etc, that would need to be worked out. Either customer accepts little to no support for 1/2 to 1/3 the price or buys else where I would guess.
I have no problem with anyone making a living. I have a problem with people collecting what is basically a unwarranted tax. I have a problem with people claiming they are needed when they are not. I have a problem with people lying about their competition or competing business models. I have a problem with having to do the dog and pony show to get a good price.
Toby have you ever bought a new car? This is the pinnacle of reseller existence, enshrined by law and dirty deals.
If the salesmen there didn't have jobs they would be out committing blatant theft.
I agree .. taken from a clip on youtube from their Dutone Launch meeting in Tarifatautologies wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:27 amFoil, I think your numbers are off. No way north sold 60k kites. (?).
there isn't a business model in place anywhere that sells to the public at the same price it sells to distributors or retailersfoilholio wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:43 amSimply I think they are unnecessary for me and many others.
If you, others and the shops think their existence is necessary, then they should face the free market. If the major brands made their gear available to the general public at the same prices they supply the shops, then their true value can be gauged. If they all survive that then they are needed.
If I ran a kite company, I don't think I'd care as much about sponsored riders as how many kite schools are using my product. If a busy school is teaching lessons with my kite, I feel fairly confident that their students are going to buy my product. Then, assuming the product is good, brand loyalty will keep those customers coming back for more. I'd expect fewer customers buying simply because some pro rider uses my kites.
that's why I doubted Best will ever succeed with its "Ride for us" marketing.FLandOBX wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:06 pmIf I ran a kite company, I don't think I'd care as much about sponsored riders as how many kite schools are using my product. If a busy school is teaching lessons with my kite, I feel fairly confident that their students are going to buy my product. Then, assuming the product is good, brand loyalty will keep those customers coming back for more. I'd expect fewer customers buying simply because some pro rider uses my kites.
You can see that the Rebel WAS (emphasis on WAS) the most sold kite... until they made it 4 lines I guess???Foxi wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:00 amI agree .. taken from a clip on youtube from their Dutone Launch meeting in Tarifatautologies wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:27 amFoil, I think your numbers are off. No way north sold 60k kites. (?).
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Foxi wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:00 amI agree .. taken from a clip on youtube from their Dutone Launch meeting in Tarifatautologies wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:27 amFoil, I think your numbers are off. No way north sold 60k kites. (?).
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Yeah also think Lewis is great! Much more out there and actually trying to help others instead of only promoting themselves. Good Pro riders can really help your brand...also like Kevin Langeree who's doing a great job for Naish if you ask me!Toby wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:09 pmthat's why I doubted Best will ever succeed with its "Ride for us" marketing.FLandOBX wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:06 pmIf I ran a kite company, I don't think I'd care as much about sponsored riders as how many kite schools are using my product. If a busy school is teaching lessons with my kite, I feel fairly confident that their students are going to buy my product. Then, assuming the product is good, brand loyalty will keep those customers coming back for more. I'd expect fewer customers buying simply because some pro rider uses my kites.
IMO a rider like Lewis Crathern is more worth than Aaron Hadlow. One part is performance, a bigger part is being "out" there with camps, schools, universities etc.
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