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Future of Kiteboarding Equipment

Postby Clew In » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:21 pm

The High Pressure technology is very interesting and it got me wondering what our kites will be evolving into and maybe sooner than later.

I also saw an article on ion propulsion:

https://youtu.be/boB6qu5dcCw

This maybe later technology than sooner.

https://youtu.be/boB6qu5dcCw

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Re: Future of Kiteboarding Equipment

Postby kiteswede » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:45 pm

Maybe in the future you dont need 3-5 different kites size but only one :naughty:

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Re: Future of Kiteboarding Equipment

Postby grigorib » Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:25 am

I need a foilboard with ion engine

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Re: Future of Kiteboarding Equipment

Postby pmaggie » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:50 pm

My hope is that kiteboarding will not follow the path of windsurfing. In late 90ties, the common feeling about ws was a super bright future and an endless development. The real story was very different. Real innovation nearly stopped, every year the marketing department was sweating to find the way of convincing people that the new stuff was far better. But it wasn't and anyone was aware of this. Less sales, less money, less development, an endless spiral to annihilation. The customer is not an idiot, a brand that goes on calling "game changer" every little improvement is bound to loose the customer faith (and the related sales).

Real development, fresh ideas come only when the goal is not selling one more kite, where there's a white paper to fill.

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Re: Future of Kiteboarding Equipment

Postby Mossy 757 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:31 pm

pmaggie wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:50 pm


Real development, fresh ideas come only when the goal is not selling one more kite, where there's a white paper to fill.
Give your customers products they love to use and your brand will be just fine. Sometimes the engineers and R&D dorks get out of control and forget they're trying to provide a high quality, durable, easy to use product to consumers with very specific but easy to understand buying preferences. Kiting is such a narrow end-market, I can't imagine the marketers don't basically know ever consumer by their first name, or at least their Kiteforum handle :lol:

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Re: Future of Kiteboarding Equipment

Postby JakeFarley » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:02 pm

And in the windsurfing market, prices increased with the technology (carbon fiber composite boards, booms, masts) and sails were specialized requiring a specific mast, increasing the cost to the consumer. Many youths left the sport. Back in its heyday, on a high wind day at my local beach there would be 40+ windsurfers. Now there are about a handful left, mostly older ones.

Cost is a major factor. Manufacturers have to drive down cost and increase quality to stay competitive. If they fail, they will go the way of the Dodo. Then the remaining manufacturers get greedy increasing prices thinking they have a monopolistic hold on the market. However, kitesurfing is a want, not a need and if prices continue to increase, many will not buy into the "latest and greatest" hype. Just my $2 worth ( I increased it from 2 cents just because I can).

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Re: Future of Kiteboarding Equipment

Postby longwhitecloud » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:35 pm

it is happening right now, there are few younger riders left here compared to what there used to be ratio wise.

the cost is the single biggest factor, marketing performance related equipment cost also devalues the sport to younger riders.

your progression in a sport are super rewarding fun times, buying progression ( eg buying a higher technology more expensive bigger boosting kite/faster kite or whatever) is seriously not cool to younger riders.. it also not fair competition wise.

kiteboarding marketing is embarrasing these days. fact is young riders can rip with 12 year old equipment technology no problem at all.

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Re: Future of Kiteboarding Equipment

Postby TomW » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:16 pm

kiteswede wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:45 pm
Maybe in the future you dont need 3-5 different kites size but only one :naughty:
Moses 633 hydrofoil, Ozone Hyperlink 9m UL. 70+ sessions in southern Sweden this season.
Used it so much I really don't need other kites ( 7m Hyperlink and 13m Sonic 2 - used 12 times)

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Re: Future of Kiteboarding Equipment

Postby grigorib » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:34 pm

pmaggie wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:50 pm
My hope is that kiteboarding will not follow the path of windsurfing. ...
It will. Wait till e-foils cost under $2000 and bunch of people who switched from twintips to foils will switch from foils to e-foils.

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Re: Future of Kiteboarding Equipment

Postby grigorib » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:38 pm

TomW wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:16 pm
kiteswede wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:45 pm
Maybe in the future you dont need 3-5 different kites size but only one :naughty:
Moses 633 hydrofoil, Ozone Hyperlink 9m UL. 70+ sessions in southern Sweden this season.
Used it so much I really don't need other kites ( 7m Hyperlink and 13m Sonic 2 - used 12 times)
I sold my 15m and barely using the 11m size. The door board hasn’t touched water in over 12 months. The only reason to ride my twintip on our local lake in pst 24 months was 45 knots wind conditions and I didn’t have anything smaller than 5m to foil with.
Hydrofoils are sport revolution happening in front of our eyes and under our feet. Just watch dealers smile talking about foil sales they’re running


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