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Voting for KOTA - confusing

Postby Toby » Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:10 pm

Format & Competition Rules:

Friday, 24 August 2018 video entries OPEN
Friday, 30 November 2019 video entries CLOSE
Friday, 7 December - announcement

As soon as the video submission window is closed, the competition begins with a round of public votes. The 20 videos of each category that get the most votes arrive at the finals.

Among the best performances, the ones that have not received many votes, could be selected by the judges and entered in the final selection.

During the final selection process the Red Bull King of the Air judges will analyze each video clip with the same judging criteria, just like in a live performance of Red Bull King of the Air.
Sounds like the voting that is currently on now doesn't count at all...only the votes after November 30th.

So make sure to vote again after Nov 30th !

https://www.redbull.com/za-en/events/re ... ew-entries

PS: some guys should check their entries...several videos don't show !

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Re: Voting for KOTA - confusing

Postby Mossy 757 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:30 pm

The voting buttons are all broken, someone jacked up the HTML on the backend of their site.

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Re: Voting for KOTA - confusing

Postby Toby » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:01 pm

the voting works.

But I wonder...deadline reached...still additions are possible...and voting not reseted?

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Re: Voting for KOTA - confusing

Postby Sun » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:16 pm

I am sure voting has little real impact. It may sway judges a little of they find two riders to be very close, but I do think that the skill shown is 95% of what the selection panel is looking at.

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Re: Voting for KOTA - confusing

Postby tautologies » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:06 pm

Toby wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:10 pm
Format & Competition Rules:

Friday, 24 August 2018 video entries OPEN
Friday, 30 November 2019 video entries CLOSE
Friday, 7 December - announcement

As soon as the video submission window is closed, the competition begins with a round of public votes. The 20 videos of each category that get the most votes arrive at the finals.

Among the best performances, the ones that have not received many votes, could be selected by the judges and entered in the final selection.

During the final selection process the Red Bull King of the Air judges will analyze each video clip with the same judging criteria, just like in a live performance of Red Bull King of the Air.
Sounds like the voting that is currently on now doesn't count at all...only the votes after November 30th.

So make sure to vote again after Nov 30th !

https://www.redbull.com/za-en/events/re ... ew-entries

PS: some guys should check their entries...several videos don't show !

I don't think the voting ever mattered much. They use it as an indicator, but the votes does not decide who gets in or not (as far as I understand). I mean it would take 10 mins to make a script that completely screwed up the voting.

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Re: Voting for KOTA - confusing

Postby Toby » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:09 pm

Yes, voting doesn’t count at all.

But would be interesting to see what users prefer and who gets in at the end.

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Re: Voting for KOTA - confusing

Postby Lemonma » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:33 pm

Extracted from the rules of Red Bull King of the Air 2019:
"The 20 videos of each category that get the most votes arrive at the finals.
Among the best performances, the ones that have not received many votes, could be selected by the judges and entered in the final selection."

So, number of votes should count to increase a riders chance of being part of KOTA.

Looking by the Red Bull POV, a rider that could mobilize a good number of votes already is good for the company, as it mobilize people to be impacted by the brand.

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Re: Voting for KOTA - confusing

Postby march_in » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:46 pm

Still this is on the KOTA page:
Division of fleet:
◦ Top 9 from the previous years ranking of Red Bull King of the Air
◦ Top 9 from the ranking of the online video competition and wildcards
Janek Grzegorzewski had a lot of votes and he is out and you cannot see the results

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Re: Voting for KOTA - confusing

Postby Toby » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:48 pm

These will be considered by the judges...but not chosen because of the score.

They decide who they want. Simple as that.

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Re: Voting for KOTA - confusing

Postby march_in » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:23 pm

well it's not explained in the rules:
https://www.redbull.com/za-en/events/re ... -air/rules
anyway somewhere in the marketing the sport spirit is lost. i saw the guy in Tarifa and i said to myself that he will be really far in that event, maybe even on the podium.
making the videos and votes disapear looks strange. don't you think?


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