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Cabrinha bar repair advice pls

Postby windeze » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:31 am

I've a 2015 trimstrap bar.The line that runs through the black plastic tubing around the swivel and back up the tubing to the shackel has broken .
Think it's called the depower mainline. It bears the load between the front lines and the loop
Can anyone suggest what line length and thickness I need to replace this.
Cabrinha say I need to replace the whole assembly which I don't understand as all it is is a broken line.
My friends bar had exactly the same failure yesterday.
Thanks in advance.
Nuck

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Re: Cabrinha bar repair advice pls

Postby gator1 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:41 am

Happened to me. I had to pay $$ and buy the whole mainline with new pu tube and metal cleat even though I didnt need it.

Bad design.

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Re: Cabrinha bar repair advice pls

Postby Hugh2 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:49 am

Can't help you with the specifics on that, but I will say I hate covered up lines, see picture. Although in this case I should have noticed the wear on my chicken loop, it was unsettling when it let go at Witsand in South Africa a few days ago. And unsettling that the line inside the chicken loop on this Best bar is so thin. It does have some kind of black cloth covering at the pressure point of the hook on the chicken loop, but that appears to have been of little benefit. Luckily Lanral at the BKA shop at Kitebeach on Bloubergstrand had a replacement chicken loop and line for me, so I should be good for a few more years (all other lines on this bar have already been replace once, including the base part of the outer steering lines, which again chafed through in an invisible place and let go unexpectedly one day).
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Re: Cabrinha bar repair advice pls

Postby Kamikuza » Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:02 am

windeze wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:31 am
I've a 2015 trimstrap bar.The line that runs through the black plastic tubing around the swivel and back up the tubing to the shackel has broken .
Think it's called the depower mainline. It bears the load between the front lines and the loop
Can anyone suggest what line length and thickness I need to replace this.
Cabrinha say I need to replace the whole assembly which I don't understand as all it is is a broken line.
My friends bar had exactly the same failure yesterday.
Thanks in advance.
Nuck
You'll have to splice it yourself and thread it all back through. It's literally not worth the hassle, just buy a new part, I think they're like $60 or something.

I think it's like 3mm Amsteel though if you really must. Length -- no idea, couple of meters to be sure.

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Re: Cabrinha bar repair advice pls

Postby bragnouff » Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:23 am

windeze wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:31 am
(...)
Cabrinha say I need to replace the whole assembly which I don't understand as all it is is a broken line.
(...)
Overengineered stuff that you can't easily maintain... and that you can't even properly assess for wear.
Sounds about right for Cabrinha / North... (there are others!)
In most parts of the world you can find a boat shop with quality ropes, cleats, and stainless steel bits and pieces. It is incredibly harder to find a Cabrinha dealer with that specific part on hand.
Think about it when you make your next purchase...

Rant over

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Re: Cabrinha bar repair advice pls

Postby badgb21 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:27 am

This vid shows the loops on the mainline, you'd need to splice.
The installation looks fun too!
Maybe the full replacement part would be easier.
Before throwing money at it, be sure the rest of the bar is in good condition, incl. flying lines, otherwise it may be better to source a complete new bar/control system.
Let us know how you get on.
Good luck.



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Re: Cabrinha bar repair advice pls

Postby Mossy 757 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:50 pm

If only there were a thread on Kiteforum about how to source reliable replacement bar parts from local marine retailers...

http://kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2390803

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Re: Cabrinha bar repair advice pls

Postby Kamikuza » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:04 am

bragnouff wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:23 am
windeze wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:31 am
(...)
Cabrinha say I need to replace the whole assembly which I don't understand as all it is is a broken line.
(...)
Overengineered stuff that you can't easily maintain... and that you can't even properly assess for wear.
Sounds about right for Cabrinha / North... (there are others!)
In most parts of the world you can find a boat shop with quality ropes, cleats, and stainless steel bits and pieces. It is incredibly harder to find a Cabrinha dealer with that specific part on hand.
Think about it when you make your next purchase...

Rant over
I'll take over-engineered anytime my life is hanging by a string, thanks

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Re: Cabrinha bar repair advice pls

Postby knotwindy » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:32 am

I’ll take well engineered anytime rather than over-engineered. Don’t like overly complicated things. Prefer simple gear with fewer things to go wrong and easier to repair when needed. Probably because I’m a bit simple myself.

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Re: Cabrinha bar repair advice pls

Postby bragnouff » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:46 am

Kamikuza wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:04 am

I'll take over-engineered anytime my life is hanging by a string, thanks
Well... tell me how that worked for the original post then?
Worn out rope that broke, and it was impossible to assess its condition until it broke...
Either this breaks in a critical time, with life literally hanging by a string, or big let down and session over, (or kite holidays over, if Murphy's Law is at play)

Engineered with reliability and maintainability in mind should be the norm. Simpler is always better for that regard.


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