You can adjust the bar throw. All bars comes with a semi movable stopper so you can choose how much throw you want.BillyGoatGruff wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:09 pmHello Pivot riders,
I am looking at buying a 2019 pivot 9m, but am not so keen on the really long throw on the Naish bar. Anyone fly a smaller pivot (9m and 7m) on a different bar with a shorter throw ? I have a naish torch bar and am looking at converting it, the torch bar has around 32cm depower throw on the centre line, where as the pivot bar is around 55cm.
I guess using a shorter throw will limit the amount of "fast power dump" you can do, but I like riding quite powered up.
Hey Craz, I'm also using a duotone clickbar with the Pivots (just bought a 2019 9m!) but was told to remove the Y connector so the front lines are 'open'.Craz Z wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:31 amYeah Love my pivots.
I mostly foil but also snowkite. Have a quiver of pivots and have a BTB naish bar. Also use a slider loop and North/Duotone bar. I prefer the north/duotone bar the most. The high Y configuration makes the kites much more stable, forgiving and predictable. Like you said if you like riding powered up the North/duotone bar keeps the throw short an sweet and adjustable on the fly. If its nuking a bit and dont want to drop below a 7m I'll use the Naish bar for the extra throw. The only complaint I have with the naish bar is i've seen more chaffing and line wear from foiling and not unwinding the bar immediately coming out of the turns. The north bar doesn't allow this.
Um I didnt know the split point was variable up or down. So stock mode? So did you pull the safety line Red centerline out of the spinaker to lower the v closer to the bar like a regular bar? Seems less tidy but can certainly be done. I'm running the trust bar not the clicker but there isn't much difference between the 2. I definitely prefer the North bar with the rope slider chicken loop its awesome! You should just put the line back through the spinaker and see if the high Y works or doesnt only takes a few minutes to try. I feel like taking it out would cause lots of adjustment to get the center lines adjusted correctly.The spinaker keeps the center lines even and slacks the safety just a bit. A knot stops the safety from going any further. I know the lines are adjustable for stretch they actually get shorter when wearing but still if they get out of whack there is some adjustment i think without the spinaker being involved this might happen a bit more often and keeping your safety loaded instead of limp. If i ran it in this mode I would check my lines very frequently so the centers stay centered.Hugh2 wrote: Hey Craz, I'm also using a duotone clickbar with the Pivots (just bought a 2019 9m!) but was told to remove the Y connector so the front lines are 'open'.
You prefer a higher split point? And which point do you use as there are multiple options..
I still use my 2015 naish bar with 20m lines in waves from time to time but the clickbar rules!
Yeah I really like it it firms up the kite and really doesnt change it a extreme amount really seems to me like it tightens up the canopy and is less sloppy if that makes sense lots less flutter in the canopy and holds its shape a bit better in really gusty winds. The kite still turns the same an behaves the same as the naish bar just firmer and tighter I believe it puts a bit more feel/feedback in the bar as well to know where the kite is at. The rope slider brings it in even closer and is sweet for foiling.BillyGoatGruff wrote: CrazZ - I'm surprised to hear the Pivot flys well with a high "Y" bar like the north or Torch bar. The pivot is quite a flat kite and key different to the Torch or Vegas.
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