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Best hydrofoil board for beginner Volume or thinner?

Postby richy-c » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:24 pm

Trying to decide on a board to learn with on a moses onda 633. I cant decide on a board with volume like slingy alien air or thin construction like a shinn jackson.
Anyone tried both types to compare ?

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Re: Best hydrofoil board for beginner Volume or thinner?

Postby NYKiter » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:33 pm

Smaller boards are harder to learn on...
But once your riding you will want a smaller one...

Heres what learning is like...

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Re: Best hydrofoil board for beginner Volume or thinner?

Postby Kamikuza » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:18 pm

Axis MV 125, Double Agent etc

You don't need volume in a TT after all, and at first you'll just be getting up onto and riding the board on the surface. And you won't have the finesse to use a small kite that would leave you under powered on a TT so...

Volume is irrelevant.

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Re: Best hydrofoil board for beginner Volume or thinner?

Postby TomW » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:29 pm

Get a board about 135cm long. Low volume is easiest.

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Re: Best hydrofoil board for beginner Volume or thinner?

Postby dylan* » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:26 pm

For water starts on the foil I think low-ish to medium volume is easier, specifically because a high volume board is hard to flip the board on its side and keep it there to get up and get going. But if you're learning anything where you touch the board down (gybes, tacks), you can go a bit slower without sinking with a high volume board.

For ultra light wind a high-vol board is easier to get going on, where you have to dive the kite several times to build up enough speed to get up on the foil. I've had a couple sessions where my friend (with skim-foil) couldn't get going because he'd keep sinking before he could get going fast enough, but I was doing ok with the alien air.

I learned on an alien air and like it in some scenarios but I would ideally like something with a bit less volume. Something that looks like the newer LF foil boards looks great to me.
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Re: Best hydrofoil board for beginner Volume or thinner?

Postby richy-c » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:09 am

dylan* wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:26 pm
For water starts on the foil I think low-ish to medium volume is easier, specifically because a high volume board is hard to flip the board on its side and keep it there to get up and get going. But if you're learning anything where you touch the board down (gybes, tacks), you can go a bit slower without sinking with a high volume board.

For ultra light wind a high-vol board is easier to get going on, where you have to dive the kite several times to build up enough speed to get up on the foil. I've had a couple sessions where my friend (with skim-foil) couldn't get going because he'd keep sinking before he could get going fast enough, but I was doing ok with the alien air.

I learned on an alien air and like it in some scenarios but I would ideally like something with a bit less volume. Something that looks like the newer LF foil boards looks great to me.
Thanks this makes sense but I hear the onda floats on its side easily so would this make a larger volume board like the alien easier to use?

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Re: Best hydrofoil board for beginner Volume or thinner?

Postby jatem » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:24 am

richy-c wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:09 am
Thanks this makes sense but I hear the onda floats on its side easily so would this make a larger volume board like the alien easier to use?
If your foil floats, then a large volume board is easy to set on its side and waterstart.

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Re: Best hydrofoil board for beginner Volume or thinner?

Postby Flyboy » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:33 am

My experience was: smaller & lighter makes it easier to carry & maneuver the board in the water & most importantly, makes it easier to get on its side ready to water start. On the other hand, a little more flotation makes the board a bit more forgiving when you're riding it on the surface.

I would say an Alien Air is the maximum size you would want. Something a bit smaller, like the Dwarfcraft 54" is lighter & less bulky, so easier to water start, but a little less forgiving in touch-downs. Personally, I would go with the DW because it's not going to make an appreciable different from the AA in the initial learning process, but it will definitely be a more useful board to own once you've got past the first three or four sessions.

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Re: Best hydrofoil board for beginner Volume or thinner?

Postby tomtom » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:13 am

TomW wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:29 pm
Get a board about 135cm long. Low volume is easiest.
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Re: Best hydrofoil board for beginner Volume or thinner?

Postby Foil » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:28 am

if you were to go with the shinn jackson, I board I owned very briefly as a beginner, there will be many occasions as a beginner where you will find yourself just able to get up on your feet on the board and struggling to move forward(lack of skill lack of wind)
the jackson or other very low volume boards will sink, and that is a bugger! you will either hit the bottom and damage stuff, or struggle along up to your knees in water then splash!
shallow water will make this problem even worse, and as you are in MarMenor I would say go volume.
go volume now and then in time you will know when your ready for lower volume,
the jackson is not only very low volume it is also very heavy, and the heavily turned up edges are a tipping nightmare for some.


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