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Re: 14m 3-strut "lighter" wind kite recommendations?

Postby Kitehume » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:29 am

Another vote for the 14.5m flite.
Im 65kg. Its my most used kite. 10-20knt range. Fast turning for its size. Easy to loop. Light bar pressure. Well Made.
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Re: 14m 3-strut "lighter" wind kite recommendations?

Postby CaptainTech » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:33 am

CaptainTech wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:50 pm
badgb21 wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:31 pm
I hardly used my 17m Contra for the same reason.
However I did use my 15m a lot.
After a recent change in kites I’ve gone back to a 15m Contra, as I wanted a good 3 strut, easy kite.
If you can stretch to a 15m there’s a decent offer here; it’s £900 on their front page;

https://www.pooleharbour.co.uk/collecti ... a-15m-2017
Thanks! I'd thought about a 15m Contra but 15m probably a little big to sit above my 11m Switchblade, plus ideally want something a little faster than the Contra. Would love to get some views on light wind ability of Moto, Nexus and Enduro V2.
How do you find the 15m Contra for going upwind? Thanks!

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Re: 14m 3-strut "lighter" wind kite recommendations?

Postby CaptainTech » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:34 am

Kitehume wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:29 am
Another vote for the 14.5m flite.
Im 65kg. Its my most used kite. 10-20knt range. Fast turning for its size. Easy to loop. Light bar pressure. Well Made.
Thanks! Given the overwhelming support for this kite I'll see if I can get a demo!

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Re: 14m 3-strut "lighter" wind kite recommendations?

Postby badgb21 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:09 am

CaptainTech wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:33 am
CaptainTech wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:50 pm
badgb21 wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:31 pm
I hardly used my 17m Contra for the same reason.
However I did use my 15m a lot.
After a recent change in kites I’ve gone back to a 15m Contra, as I wanted a good 3 strut, easy kite.
If you can stretch to a 15m there’s a decent offer here; it’s £900 on their front page;

https://www.pooleharbour.co.uk/collecti ... a-15m-2017
Thanks! I'd thought about a 15m Contra but 15m probably a little big to sit above my 11m Switchblade, plus ideally want something a little faster than the Contra. Would love to get some views on light wind ability of Moto, Nexus and Enduro V2.
How do you find the 15m Contra for going upwind? Thanks!
A few years ago I had 13,15 and 17m Contras
The 13m was quite a bad kite (a dog) for upwind, whereas the 15 and 17m were fine. The 15m was a favourite.
I read they have since made the contra slightly higher aspect and the 13m had also been improved.
Reports I read said the kite was still good and folks seemed to like the 15m.
I've only had my new 15m Contra (2017) a couple of weeks and haven't tried it yet (nuke winds since getting it!) so can't be specific.
I'm coming off Cab Velocities, (mine's the 14m for sale on Facebook and eBay) so have been very used to strong upwind performance.

I'm expecting the Contra to perform well.
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Re: 14m 3-strut "lighter" wind kite recommendations?

Postby CaptainTech » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:15 pm

badgb21 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:09 am
CaptainTech wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:33 am
CaptainTech wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:50 pm


Thanks! I'd thought about a 15m Contra but 15m probably a little big to sit above my 11m Switchblade, plus ideally want something a little faster than the Contra. Would love to get some views on light wind ability of Moto, Nexus and Enduro V2.
How do you find the 15m Contra for going upwind? Thanks!
A few years ago I had 13,15 and 17m Contras
The 13m was quite a bad kite (a dog) for upwind, whereas the 15 and 17m were fine. The 15m was a favourite.
I read they have since made the contra slightly higher aspect and the 13m had also been improved.
Reports I read said the kite was still good and folks seemed to like the 15m.
I've only had my new 15m Contra (2017) a couple of weeks and haven't tried it yet (nuke winds since getting it!) so can't be specific.
I'm coming off Cab Velocities, (mine's the 14m for sale on Facebook and eBay) so have been very used to strong upwind performance.

I'm expecting the Contra to perform well.
I have an option on a really really cheap 2015 15m Contra. Is there a massive difference on the newer models? Thanks!

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Re: 14m 3-strut "lighter" wind kite recommendations?

Postby Cab Driver » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:40 pm

CaptainTech wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:15 pm
badgb21 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:09 am
CaptainTech wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:33 am


How do you find the 15m Contra for going upwind? Thanks!
A few years ago I had 13,15 and 17m Contras
The 13m was quite a bad kite (a dog) for upwind, whereas the 15 and 17m were fine. The 15m was a favourite.
I read they have since made the contra slightly higher aspect and the 13m had also been improved.
Reports I read said the kite was still good and folks seemed to like the 15m.
I've only had my new 15m Contra (2017) a couple of weeks and haven't tried it yet (nuke winds since getting it!) so can't be specific.
I'm coming off Cab Velocities, (mine's the 14m for sale on Facebook and eBay) so have been very used to strong upwind performance.

I'm expecting the Contra to perform well.
I have an option on a really really cheap 2015 15m Contra. Is there a massive difference on the newer models? Thanks!
Newer model has optimized flying profiles and pure profile panels for better upwind and overall wind range. Older model was designed before foiling was big. Newer model is quite lovely on a foil.
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Re: 14m 3-strut "lighter" wind kite recommendations?

Postby CaptainTech » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:45 pm

GregK wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:53 pm
Ocean Rodeo Flite 14.5m is a great light wind kite.

The 2018 and newer models now have the same kite bridle attachment configuration ( loops of the kite's front bridle, knots on the back/steering bridle lines ) as your Cab kites, so would work on your Cab bars.
Does "2018 and newer" mean gen 5 or gen 6 onwards? Thanks!

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Re: 14m 3-strut "lighter" wind kite recommendations?

Postby badgb21 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:00 pm

CaptainTech wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:15 pm
badgb21 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:09 am
CaptainTech wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:33 am


How do you find the 15m Contra for going upwind? Thanks!
A few years ago I had 13,15 and 17m Contras
The 13m was quite a bad kite (a dog) for upwind, whereas the 15 and 17m were fine. The 15m was a favourite.
I read they have since made the contra slightly higher aspect and the 13m had also been improved.
Reports I read said the kite was still good and folks seemed to like the 15m.
I've only had my new 15m Contra (2017) a couple of weeks and haven't tried it yet (nuke winds since getting it!) so can't be specific.
I'm coming off Cab Velocities, (mine's the 14m for sale on Facebook and eBay) so have been very used to strong upwind performance.

I'm expecting the Contra to perform well.
I have an option on a really really cheap 2015 15m Contra. Is there a massive difference on the newer models? Thanks!
IMO The 15m Contra has always performed well from day one. I think it may have got slightly better in later years, but if it's good nick I wouldn't hesitate.
But....take a look at the vid on this page for the 2017 updates; It ain't always about money!
http://www.kitefinder.com/en/kites/1595 ... ontra-2017

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Re: 14m 3-strut "lighter" wind kite recommendations?

Postby GregK » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:45 am

CaptainTech wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:45 pm
Does "2018 and newer" mean gen 5 or gen 6 onwards? Thanks!
Not 100% sure, but pretty sure Gen 5 was 2016 - 2017 and Gen 6 came out in early 2018.

Gen 6 have the totally black Dacron LE pocket. The bridle lines on the kite are loops on the front bridles, and knots on the steering lines.

Earlier models ( Gen 5 and previous ) have all white or white in the centre LE Dacron pockets. These kites have knots on the kite bridle front connection, and loops on the steering kite bridle line. The kite steering bridle line is about 10 cm shorter than all-line-ends-equal, so a 10 cm pigtail / extension only ( nothing on the fronts) is required on the steering lines on your bar.

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Re: 14m 3-strut "lighter" wind kite recommendations?

Postby Greenturtle » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:30 pm

CaptainTech wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:45 pm
GregK wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:53 pm
Ocean Rodeo Flite 14.5m is a great light wind kite.

The 2018 and newer models now have the same kite bridle attachment configuration ( loops of the kite's front bridle, knots on the back/steering bridle lines ) as your Cab kites, so would work on your Cab bars.
Does "2018 and newer" mean gen 5 or gen 6 onwards? Thanks!
“2018 and newer” means gen 6 and newer. Has the standard loops/knots /equal line lengths bar compatibility.

The gen 5 and older can be reconfigured easily too if thats what you find a deal on. They come with rear pigtail extensions for this reason, but still require a standard pigtail set, or reversing the pigtails on your bar.

Flites are great kites. Extremely high performance for size.


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