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What is the warmest female wetsuit

Postby HALF » Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:51 pm

My girlfriend gets cold very quickly, even in the summer she is using 4/3 wetsuit when i am with shorts and lycra.
Any ideas what is the best 5mm wetsuit that a person can buy right now?

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Re: What is the warmest female wetsuit

Postby Peert » Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:40 pm

The question in the topic title is different from the question in the text...

5mm will not be the the warmest.
I can recommend flashbomb material.
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Re: What is the warmest female wetsuit

Postby Slappysan » Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:30 pm

I get cold easy and I love my NP Surf Recon 6/5/4, the female equivalent of it would be the Serene 6/5/4:
http://www.npsurf.com/collections/seren ... 5-4-hooded

They aren't cheap though.

See the Recon in action in -3 degrees here:


Another great option I would recommend is the NP Surf Serene Wind Top (get it 1-2 sizes too big) to wear over her wetsuit. I wear the mens version over my wetsuits (1 size too big for summer suits, 2 sizes too big for winter, these things fit small) almost all the time and they are awesome and pretty cheap.
https://www.npsurf.com/collections/d-l- ... top-ladies
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Re: What is the warmest female wetsuit

Postby Da Yoda » Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:46 pm

HALF wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:51 pm
Any ideas what is the best 5mm wetsuit that a person can buy right now?
Truly there's only one answer... The wetsuit that fits her body the best! Have her try on as many as she can. :thumb:
Xcel wetsuits are highly regarded. Same for Ripcurl, O'Neill, & Patagonia. My friend loves her BodyGlove suit, so worth a check as well.
Several kite specific brands also have some 5mm offerings... Mystic, Ion, Ride Engine, Manera, Prolimit, N Pryde, & Brunotti.

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Re: What is the warmest female wetsuit

Postby dejavu » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:02 am

Agree with Peert. The best wetsuit for warmth i have owned (over 45yrs) is the RipCurl Flashbomb. Not cheap but very very good. Dries quickly too.

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Re: What is the warmest female wetsuit

Postby kitekook77 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:48 am

Just find a good diving wetsuit.

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Re: What is the warmest female wetsuit

Postby HALF » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:55 am

The temperature during the winter is around 14 degrees, so not very cold and 6mm will be too much I think.
I was thinking exactly about the Flashbomb, but I wanted to hear if there are other options as the ripcurl is around 400 euros (probably worth it).

I also checked the Serene 5/4/3 however it looks like the interior lining is only on the chest.

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Re: What is the warmest female wetsuit

Postby longwhitecloud » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:14 am

while expensive - these things are very very underrated - https://www.sharkskin.com/womens/chillp ... omens.html

even under a 4/3 - toasty - vests - with no arms - it keep the arm movement less restricted.. way better

another thing is warm up fro a good start - i had a set of weights in my van . - just did a few sets and warmed up soooo quick

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Re: What is the warmest female wetsuit

Postby windmaker » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:40 am

Da Yoda wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:46 pm
HALF wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:51 pm
Any ideas what is the best 5mm wetsuit that a person can buy right now?
Truly there's only one answer... The wetsuit that fits her body the best! Have her try on as many as she can. :thumb:
Xcel wetsuits are highly regarded. Same for Ripcurl, O'Neill, & Patagonia. My friend loves her BodyGlove suit, so worth a check as well.
Several kite specific brands also have some 5mm offerings... Mystic, Ion, Ride Engine, Manera, Prolimit, N Pryde, & Brunotti.

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: As usual the case with this kind of question you will end up with an endless list of each persons preferences. Everyone suddenly becomes an expert in the field :D

Yoda is right, if it doesn't fit properly it will either be uncomfortable or let water in/out = cold. Only true fact dark colour suits are warmer.

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Re: What is the warmest female wetsuit

Postby nixmatters » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:38 am

Da Yoda wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:46 pm

Truly there's only one answer... The wetsuit that fits her body the best!
I would disagree with the stathement "only one answer", yet I'd put the fit on top of the list:
1. Fit & flush - the better the fit, the less cold water inside the suit to drain body warmth in an instant. Water flush also depends a lot on the closure system and neck/wrist seels. Front/chest zip gives less flush than BZ, also a bit warmer due to multiple layers neoprene overlapping.

2. Neoprene foam - generally the lower the density (weight), the better the insulation. Yamamoto #40 and Sheico's N foam being at the top of the line for surfing wetsuits, followed by Yamamoto #39 and Sheico S Foam, widely used in premium kite/windsurfing.
Neoprene stretch also plays a great role in wetsuits >4mm, to provide the best snug fit without being too restrictive.

3 Wind chill (double lined wetsuits) causes a huge heat loss in kite&windsurfing.
Difficult to rate & compare between brands. Depends largely on the the weight and structure of the outer jersey (how much water it soaks and at what rate it evaporates it). Some brands use water repellent jersey on the outside, but this never lasts very long.
Kite/windsurfing smooth/glide skin wetsuits are a thing from the past, but there are many brands using smooth/shark/mesh skin neoprene in the chest and back panels. I would put a question mark on this feature, as the waist harness covers most of the back panel and serves as a wind chill protection too. A shark/mesh skin against the harness riding up - yes.
An alternative to smooth skin wetsuit is NP's Combat (men's) / Storm (ladies'): https://www.neilpryde.com/collections/s ... hooded-650. That's a PU coated jersey laminated to the neoprene foam. A bit too stiff material for my taste, windsurfers love it.
The best thing against wind chill (as mentioned by others above) is using an additional top - like the SharkSkin Chillproof sleeveless top or the NP Armorskin Serene Wind Top (2019 Storm Armor Skin top: https://www.neilpryde.com/collections/n ... top-0-3-mm). Hurley have a similar one too: https://www.nike.com/t/hurley-advantage ... 940822-010

4. Hooded wetsuit or a separate neoprene hood/beanie. No need to go deeper here - HALF's girlfriend surely does wear one already :)

5. Lining (inside jersey) - quite important for the overal insulation. Most of the 'plush/fleece' linings do a good job to reduce the thermal loss as they have a low contact surface and capture air (even Yamamototo #40 neoprene foam has higher thermal conductivity than damp air).
But only a few ladies' winter suits have full 'fleece' all over the body (incl. arms, shoulders, upper chest/back, lower legs), as 1) it's more expensive and 2) has lower stretch than the standard high-stretch inner jersey.
RipCurl Flashbomb is the only one I know of with 100% thermo lining in a ladies' wetsuit. And it's probably one of the best linings in the market.

Few other suggestions:
ISURUS has been praised by almost every surfer who's got deep enough pockets to get one. Only one ladie's 5/4 hooded model, but comes in plenty of sizes incl. Short and Tall, unlike most other brands that stick to 4-5 main sizes.
NEILPRYDE Serene (full lining, see the screenshot below) and Storm (same lining) are worth fitting if you have a shop that stocks them nearby.
ION has probably the largest assortment in 6/5 and 5/4 ladies suits.
O'Neill Womens Psycho Tech 6/4 Hooded
XCEL Women's Drylock Hooded 5/4

Special high-tech yarns... smart yarns... titanium, zirconium, paladium... unobtanium, rare minerals, FIR (far infrared), carbon black, bamboo...bla-bla.. it's all big marketing B/S! None of these has been scientificaly proven to give any noticeable boost in thermal performance!
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