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Why do schools keep using the seat harness in lessons but most people use waist?

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Re: Why do schools keep using the seat harness in lessons but most people use waist?

Postby Matteo V » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:28 am

bay surfer wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:32 pm
Regardless of hook position, the harness itself, and it's contact with the body, dictates where the power is transferred to the rider.
.... When pulling a deadman Abs work hard so your theory that power is always transferred low is bunk.
Stating that you still work your abs when performing a "deadman" with a seat harness is not a refutation to my above statement. There is no way around using your abs while performing a "deadman" with any type of harness.

With a seat harness and lower hook (and 'power transfer to body' point), your abs are resisting a larger mass above the hook point. Think of a sit-up while holding dumbbells at your chest.

With a waist harness and higher hook point (and 'power transfer to body' point), your abs are resisting a larger mass below the hook point (and less above). Think of a leg raise with a dumbbell between your feet.

Both work your abs.

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Re: Why do schools keep using the seat harness in lessons but most people use waist?

Postby prop_joe » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:42 pm

Matteo V wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:01 am
Wait......it appears I have been trolled with big words followed by "and stuff". Still, very much at your service - Cappy!
Why can't you just accept when a better answer is provided from someone with clearly more knowledge? GraemeF's answer was bang on and doesn't need your butt hurt multi quote breakdown analysis borefest.

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Re: Why do schools keep using the seat harness in lessons but most people use waist?

Postby PullStrings » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:47 pm

Sure Matteo you can wear a waist harness
Waist 46 in
Chest 49.5 in
Differential of 3.5

But a waist harness will remain really locked in on me
Waist 31 in
Chest 41 in
Differential of 10

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Re: Why do schools keep using the seat harness in lessons but most people use waist?

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:20 pm

In these endless threads, because the two harness types are just different none is better than the other in the long run, except a seat is good for students of course - one thing always strikes me:

Many on this forum, think a seat looks like a diaper :roll:

This is something nobody think around here, it doesnt matter and one does not look more cool in one than the other.

But apparently some think a waist looks better - it is just an observation that a few think a seat looks like a diaper, but most dont ever see this connection.

Funny how different views on this, almost like discussing which colour or graphic is the coolest :rollgrin:

8) Peter


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