Sure, why not. Long lines are not any more difficult than short lines. In fact many schools prefer teaching on incredibly slow kites because they're afraid their students are going to make a mistake turning the kite too quickly. Long lines only increase the space available to prevent a mistake from crashing the kite.
Not everyone wants to foil. Many people find it boring af. Don't be obtuse, these are completely different topics.
My harness very rarely rides up even when body dragging or boosting. My friends' harnesses don't ride up. I see some beginners' harnesses riding up when they don't purchase the right size, or have a strange body shape. Maybe you fall into one of those categories and are just projecting your opinion onto kiters at large?purdyd wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:48 amIf you start out dragging, the kite is pretty much going to be pulling up on your harness.
Any type of boost, the kite is pulling up on your harness.
There are plenty of times the kite pulls up even in just normal riding.
And I don’t see anything wrong with seat harnesses. I think the waist harness popularity is partly just a look cool thing.
Great point on lower tow point. Lower hook locations essentially create less leverage (good in this case) over the board. Since the rider is always trimming the board to the desired angle to horizontal, a higher hook point means the rider is fighting more leverage to pull them over as opposed to just transferring that power to the board. This means less body positioning prior to increasing the kite's pull. So a seat harness, with my riding style (and using a quad finned directional), is pretty essential to maximizing the potential of the system in the way that I want.
I would disagree from my experience, but I cannot back that up with good evidence. My feeling is that the most freedom/mobility of any harness I have ever used was with climbing harnesses while snowkiting. Again, pretty weak argument since my feet are locked into a snowboard (my primary snow riding choice), and my kiteskiing experience is limited. I will agree that there have been some extremely rigid seat harnesses that were the most restrictive with respect to freedom/mobility. But the minimalist type of seat harness allows more mobility as the twisting moment on your body is not trying to rotate at your chest, but rather at your actual waist (for a male). So in my experience, a higher hook point (waist harness) means I need to constantly tension my upper torso against the sideways pull of the kite. But with a seat harness, my upper body is free to rotate without fighting the kite.
I still do every power level of kiting from overpowered to extremely underpowered. At my summer and winter locations, that is a choice as I have good clean winds. But spring and fall, I spend time kiting in pretty ugly inland winds. And in those ugly winds, a seat harness works out better. Since you are overpowered one minute with the kite just above you as you are trying to stay in control, then need to utilize as much power from the lull as you can to stay up (keeping the kite low), a seat maximizes the light wind power transfer and does not ride up when you put the kite up to shed the power.
Regardless of hook position, the harness itself, and it's contact with the body, dictates where the power is transferred to the rider.
Depends on the seat harness, mine is form fitting to back, but does not ride up due to leg straps, which is nice when looping. When pulling a deadman Abs work hard so your theory that power is always transferred low is bunk.Regardless of hook position, the harness itself, and it's contact with the body, dictates where the power is transferred to the rider.
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