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Re: Kite brand shake-up

Postby Faxie » Sat May 04, 2019 10:05 am

Toby wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 9:59 am
Looking at the logo from Ullmann people will think it is a Switch kite...
No it's not

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Re: Kite brand shake-up

Postby james » Sun May 05, 2019 8:56 am

Having worked in sail cloth manufacture and supply there is nothing new or revolutionary in terms of material that Ullman /north with bring

The hybrid fabrics have existed for years, the question will be if they get built in a light enough weight to be practical.

We had a dyneema reinforced Dacron the dynema was woven in in every 19-20-30 whatever thread count was needed, that would create a tear/burst proof LE or strut.

The problem is volume, a brand would want a small 50m roll to build test kites from at say 200gsm. The factories are geared up to build 400gsm minimum weights at 500m

IF the person holding the purse strings wants to pay the cost of altering to a lighter weight and the short roll costs then yeah it might work

But the factories producing the cloth are selling 100s of thousands of meters so buggering about for a tiny speculative roll isn’t high on the agenda,

In kiting we get what the sailing world don’t use in any volume and we don’t have the purchase power to get bespoke product

As for Ullman getting into kites? Why? It makes absolutely no sense.

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Re: Kite brand shake-up

Postby Toby » Sun May 05, 2019 11:13 am

Maybe the owner loves kiteboarding?
Can’t have a better reason 😉

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Re: Kite brand shake-up

Postby windmaker » Sun May 05, 2019 1:28 pm

I have been making sails professionally for the past 20 years and haven't seen any revolutionary material in the sailmaking industry for years. Different blend and mixes yes but just like rip stop, double , triple quadruple as often mostly marketing .

The only thing I can think of is the one piece, no stitches moulded sails as used in America's cup boats but price would be exorbitant, who knows maybe they use something look alike as used on some parts of windsurfing sails, not the real thing but cheaper and looks good.
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Re: Kite brand shake-up

Postby longwhitecloud » Sun May 05, 2019 2:55 pm

Nothing like paying a real graphic designer.

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Re: Kite brand shake-up

Postby nixmatters » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:11 pm

Toby wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 9:59 am
Looking at the logo from Ullmann people will think it is a Switch kite...
Ullman is the former South Easter ... g-company/

The twin strut wing comes from the same team:

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