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Re: We should be wearing sunglasses throughout the day and especially while kiteboarding! Why aren't we?

Postby jakemoore » Thu May 09, 2019 4:10 pm

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Wed May 08, 2019 10:24 pm
Just to let you know how the cataract op goes, you basically get to look into a light while the guy digs your old lens out with a scalpel, although you can't feel much you get the vibration, a bit like at the dentists, your knuckles go well white as you grip the arm of the chair as he scrapes about getting rid of all the old lens, you get to watch it all, a bit blurry of course because he's just destroyed what's left of your sun damaged lens.

Trust me, my time over again, I'd never go on the water without shades...
It doesn't help people to create false and scary information about removing cataract. A blunt tipped cannula is used to separate the cloudy lens from the lens capsule and then the cloudy lens is emulsified and aspirated, again with a blunt tipped cannula. No scraping or cutting the lens up with a scalpel. We also have strong medicines for anxiety such that the majority of people have no memory of the procedure except for the bright light. Alas, anybody who lives long enough will develop a cataract sunglasses or no but fortunately it is a problem we can fix.

No doubt nobody comes to have a cataract removed for fun and I agree 100% with the desire to delay cataract growth and prevent several other more serious eye problems with Sunglasses. I wear sunglasses 100% kiting and advocate as much for the cheap ones as well as the expensive ones that I sell just so long as the user wears.

FWIW I wear Costas with a floaty retaining strap so the ocean does not take them.

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Re: We should be wearing sunglasses throughout the day and especially while kiteboarding! Why aren't we?

Postby CaptainCore » Thu May 09, 2019 10:24 pm

jakemoore wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 4:10 pm
CaptainCore wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 10:24 pm
Just to let you know how the cataract op goes, you basically get to look into a light while the guy digs your old lens out with a scalpel, although you can't feel much you get the vibration, a bit like at the dentists, your knuckles go well white as you grip the arm of the chair as he scrapes about getting rid of all the old lens, you get to watch it all, a bit blurry of course because he's just destroyed what's left of your sun damaged lens.

Trust me, my time over again, I'd never go on the water without shades...
It doesn't help people to create false and scary information about removing cataract. A blunt tipped cannula is used to separate the cloudy lens from the lens capsule and then the cloudy lens is emulsified and aspirated, again with a blunt tipped cannula. No scraping or cutting the lens up with a scalpel. We also have strong medicines for anxiety such that the majority of people have no memory of the procedure except for the bright light. Alas, anybody who lives long enough will develop a cataract sunglasses or no but fortunately it is a problem we can fix.

No doubt nobody comes to have a cataract removed for fun and I agree 100% with the desire to delay cataract growth and prevent several other more serious eye problems with Sunglasses. I wear sunglasses 100% kiting and advocate as much for the cheap ones as well as the expensive ones that I sell just so long as the user wears.

FWIW I wear Costas with a floaty retaining strap so the ocean does not take them.
Just to let you know how the cataract op goes, you basically get to look into a light while the guy sucks your old lens out with blunt tipped cannula, although you can't feel much you get the vibration, a bit like at the dentists, your knuckles go well white as you grip the arm of the chair as he sucks about emulsifying and aspirating the old lens, you get to watch it all, a bit blurry of course because he's just destroyed what's left of your sun damaged lens.

Trust me, my time over again, I'd never go on the water without shades...

There is that more accurate and less scary for you?

Snowflakes.

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Re: We should be wearing sunglasses throughout the day and especially while kiteboarding! Why aren't we?

Postby jakemoore » Thu May 09, 2019 11:03 pm

CaptainCore wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 10:24 pm
Snowflakes.
Not for me, but for 3,000,000 people in the US each year yes the language does matter so thank you. If you need another procedure, ask your doc to give you a little more sedation. She would probably oblige so long as you are at least marginally friendly to the office staff.

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Re: We should be wearing sunglasses throughout the day and especially while kiteboarding! Why aren't we?

Postby Exal » Fri May 10, 2019 6:29 am

pitbulldoug wrote:
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Toby wrote:
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We should be wearing sunglasses throughout the day and especially while kiteboarding! Why aren't we?
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How curious is the fact that despite science and logic, sometimes us humans behave against what we instinctively know is beneficial for us; like eating clean and healthy, wearing a helmet while doing extreme sports and investing in pair of polarized sunglasses when out in the sun near water or snow to name a few!
Just like with helmets, wearing sunglasses while kiteboarding seems unfashionable and excuses like “I will lose them”, “They are annoying”, “They are expensive”, “Water droplets on the lens bother me” and so on, seem to always come up.
Truth is companies have filled all these gaps offering a range of options with different styles, price points, fits and a wide variety of options. So what is holding all us kiters back from wearing sunglasses while kiteboarding?

We believe that it is the social norms of the majority overriding the logic. If all the professionals, instructors and kiteboarding promotions wore sunglasses while riding, competing, teaching it would make people think twice… “If these people are wearing them…. maybe I should too.” Although it is not the case, just like with helmets. Only a few wear it and so it’s not really popular.

The use of polarized sunglasses, in general, will help reduce the chances of cataracts, macular degeneration, sunburn on the cornea and the risk of experiencing vision issues like “snow blindness” which can and have happened to kiters before.

After taking time to research we found many companies that offer sunglasses specifically for kiteboarding. We have found these top-rated companies offering a variety of different styles, prices, and features that are excellent for kite use: Kurtis Eye Wear, Ocean Glasses, Sea Specs, and Lip Sunglasses! We know there might be many more companies out there and if you are currently using one of them let the community know which you use and recommend!
Agree really need them but for me I own Curtis, Oakley, sea specs tried em all and still get the dreaded salt spots that render your vision real poor/useless after 1/2 hr so of kiting especially in the waves, I wish with all the technology out here someone would come out with a excellent topical spray that you can put on the lenses that actually works! I have tried everything and would say the Curtis are probably the best but there spray is only good for 1/2 hr so then they spot up and I can barely see, so I take them off and hang around my neck,I’m desperately looking for something that actually works as both my eyes have pterigium from years/decades surfing and kiting, sup etc,I spend quite a bit of time in NE Brasil where the afternoon sun is brutal!If I find s product that works I would most definitely use them always, just have not found s good long lasting product that stops the water spots after close to 15 yrs kiting,
Try Rain-x, it is for the car window but I had good success using it on my sunnies!

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Re: We should be wearing sunglasses throughout the day and especially while kiteboarding! Why aren't we?

Postby Peert » Fri May 10, 2019 8:37 am

This is certainly an interesting read! Thanks for sharing.

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Re: We should be wearing sunglasses throughout the day and especially while kiteboarding! Why aren't we?

Postby jakemoore » Fri May 10, 2019 4:52 pm

RainX is superb but I would not use it on glasses that have expensive lens treatments such as AR or oleophobic surface e.g. Crizal etc. But if it’s a cheap pair of sunglasses or RX with CR39 lenses then RainX is great.

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Re: We should be wearing sunglasses throughout the day and especially while kiteboarding! Why aren't we?

Postby MaximumAC » Fri May 10, 2019 5:55 pm

Been wearing Oasys transitions for last 4-5 sessions. It takes the edge off, perhaps, but you won't notice much of a difference. Acuvue products have included UV protection for a while now. Transitions only exist to lessen the intensity of the light, and they don't do it noticeably. I'll take a pair of polarized sunglasses with water spots any day.

I'm an eye doc, and i'm not looking forward to the droves of patients who will come back at me upset over their "transitions" lenses, but I do believe they fill a very small niche market. If I can't wear sunglasses, i'll take AV Oasys transitions over nothing.

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Re: We should be wearing sunglasses throughout the day and especially while kiteboarding! Why aren't we?

Postby POACHER » Fri May 10, 2019 6:01 pm

Yeah I dropped almost $7k on Lasik a couple of years ago. Thankfully mine was successful and now I have 20/10 vision (even two years later)
I'd very much like to protect my eyesight and investment. The idea of polarized contacts seems ideal, but I'm not even sure you can do lenses after Lasik?.....additionally aren't you supposed to protect the entire eye, not just the iris/cornea?

I really do hate wearing glasses kiting, most because of the spray and losing them. But I need to do it more...

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Re: We should be wearing sunglasses throughout the day and especially while kiteboarding! Why aren't we?

Postby MaximumAC » Fri May 10, 2019 7:09 pm

Yeah, a major advantage to sunglasses is the protection of the peri-ocular surfaces that are prone to UV damage and consequently cancer. The more you can cover the better. That said, cataracts and macular degeneration are two biggies you need to look out for that contacts would help. Pterygium and pinguecula are on the conjunctiva which are barely covered by CL's but you may get some slight risk reduction. Also, it should be noted that CL's being worn in water is a big no-no in the contact lens world. If you wear them in water they need to be promptly removed and cleaned with a H2O2 based cleaner.
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Re: We should be wearing sunglasses throughout the day and especially while kiteboarding! Why aren't we?

Postby JakeFarley » Fri May 10, 2019 9:29 pm

MaximumAC wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 7:09 pm
Also, it should be noted that CL's being worn in water is a big no-no in the contact lens world. If you wear them in water they need to be promptly removed and cleaned with a H2O2 based cleaner.
I've worn my contacts for 30+ years free diving, windsurfing and kiteboarding with no ill effects, infections. I've left them in afterwards for several hours. Is there an increased risk of infection? Or something else?

I would not even think of wearing my prescription sun glasses on the water.

I also wear Seaspecs to keep them from getting blown out and to protect my eyes.


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