SurfboY wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:45 am
Anyone that can compare a Naish Torch 8m (2019) top end with the Pivot 8m 2020? I was in 32knots gusts 40 with my 8 Torch which was too much, I wonder if a 8m Pivot would have worked better.
I read you need to take one smaller size in Pivot and that the wind range is similar. But that’s all from older versions of the Pivot. What about 2020?
I don’t mind being overpowered, that’s what I want for Big Air. But I need to be able to hold my edge.
TLDR; Yes you could have used a Pivot. Read the longer version too.
So, personally I think giving advice on top end is a bit hard. There are so many variables that come into play...comfort, board, riding style, rider weight..even temperature seems to impact wind strength. So in colder weather, it feels to me like the wind has less power. But of course, it could be just conditions as well. When that is said, even if I cannot do a direct comparison with the 2019 8 torch..I've ridden a few of them before. I also have an 8 pivot for this year.
In 40 knots you'll be lit. Way way lit on a pivot for sure. I do not doubt that it can handle lit conditions. I've ridden a 9 pivot in well over 30knots, and although sending it was fun, I got to some uncomfortable heights so this year I opted for the 8 pivot for those conditions. I do not think it hits 40 knots tho. Might want a bit smaller for it.
Yes sure you'd normally choose at least a size smaller for pivot vs torch, but pivot is much much more comfortable to ride lit than torch IMO. But they handle very differently. I tend to prefer pivot by a pretty big margin. Torch was fun when I was younger.
Torch puts a lot of management on your board handling and pressure, and the pivot relies more on the bar tho once you get lit, certainly all your board skills from the torch will come into play. In lit conditions jumping a torch is great for superhuman athletes, where pivots you can use the bar more actively to gain heigh. Certainly, the pivot has that gut-wrenching pull when jumping lit, but not quite as much as the torch. Its a lot easier to correct a jump on the pivot..especially when using 9 or lower sizes...
If you do not unhook personally I would go for the pivot any day of the week. It still pulls in loops, but obviously not like the torch, but key for me is being able to correct shit that goes wrong. Last time I really looped a torch I ended up with PT for 6 months.
Pivot I use mainly for surfing waves and TT.