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Re: Naish Pivot 2020

Postby RustyChain » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:56 pm

That valve is on my SUP. It's a different nozzle then what is used now.

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Re: Naish Pivot 2020

Postby tautologies » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:13 pm

RustyChain wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:56 pm
That valve is on my SUP. It's a different nozzle then what is used now.
Yeah. They say in the video that every kite comes with an adapter to the pumps.
How do you like the nozzle for your iSup?

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Re: Naish Pivot 2020

Postby Gonzolinho » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:32 pm

I still find it very awkward that Naish is the only manufacturer now that offers a non switchable double stroke pump.
Contemplated that the kites should be pumped with more than 10psi I wonder how a light person like a small lady should be able to pump up the kite properly?
But obviously Naish bought a shipload of these low-grade pumps and still did not run out of them....

Glad to see the Octopus is history now.

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Re: Naish Pivot 2020

Postby MartinO » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:39 am

flysurfing wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:25 pm
MartinO wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:19 pm
flysurfing wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:54 pm
Too bad they dropped the Octopus ! Love this system ... I got the Pivot 8/9/10/12 2019 and so fan of it. I had North the previous year and always forgot to clip the pipe before the session, don't need to think about it with the Octopus. Also never got any problem with it...
I had onepump with hoses since 2007 and I have not once "clipped the pipe". Never had any problems.

But I agree with you. I have both Naish Octopus and kites with "normal" onepump and I clearly prefer the Octopus. I like the dump valves when packing the kite after a session most of all. I have a Cabrinha Vector and it´s always a hassle when those hoses fold and the struts don´t deflate.
yes but be careful until you blow your leading edge far from the shore and get the whole kite to deflate.
No problem for me. I am a long distance open water swimmer and regurarly do swims that are probably four times as long as the longest I have ever been from shore while kiting. If I blow my leading edge, any kite will drop. Sure, if a strut fails, I get some trouble, but I would say that it is more annoying than dangerous where I kite. No sharks, no rocks.

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Re: Naish Pivot 2020

Postby MartinO » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:22 am

alexeyga wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:39 pm
Seeeeeeeetttttt!!!! Finally, Naish kites that are worth buying and owning.

For all octopus-pimpers, I'd pay to see you troubleshooting a leaky kite. Especially in field.

Where on any "conventional" one-pump system one only has to clamp the hoses, see what deflates and only fix the deflated part - on an octopus-equipped wing things are... well, were - slightly more "through one's arse" - pardon the expression...
Hoses + dump valves on the struts would be my preferred system. Or hoses that don´t fold. Soft hoses are really annoying in my opinion.

I have never had any problems finding a leak on an octopus kite. Leading edge deflates = hole in leading edge. One strut deflates+the leading edge = hole in the soft strut. I can think of quite a few things in my life that are harder to find out... Since Naish added the easy access zipper to the Octopus and reinforced the seams around it (compared to 2007-2009 in the early days of Octopus especially) I like the system.

What is more problematic is that you can´t isolate one strut if you puncture it with the Octopus system. I have never tried with modern 3-strut kite, but a 5-strut flies quite ok with ony 4 struts inflated. This means that you can save a session and continue to fly and then take care of the problem in the evening. With the Octopus you must fix it right away and if the kite is a bit wet and it´s windy, it can be a bit of a challenge.

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Re: Naish Pivot 2020

Postby RustyChain » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:38 pm

tautologies wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:13 pm
RustyChain wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:56 pm
That valve is on my SUP. It's a different nozzle then what is used now.
Yeah. They say in the video that every kite comes with an adapter to the pumps.
How do you like the nozzle for your iSup?
It's pretty nice. Doesn't leak, easily holds the 15-20 psi you put in. Will be a little nicer to pack up the kite because it will stay wide open, vs sometimes the little neoprene cover wants to go back in place. It seems like it would be heavier, but that may not be the case especially if you consider the neoprene part.
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Re: Naish Pivot 2020

Postby ThickAir » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:37 pm

Great....another proprietary inflation system. Forget your pump at the beach and you are screwed. No one else will have the correct adapter.

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Re: Naish Pivot 2020

Postby eloico » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:54 pm

ThickAir wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:37 pm
Great....another proprietary inflation system. Forget your pump at the beach and you are screwed. No one else will have the correct adapter.
they replaced the octopus with the octopump :lol:

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Re: Naish Pivot 2020

Postby alexeyga » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:01 pm

ThickAir wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:37 pm
Great....another proprietary inflation system. Forget your pump at the beach and you are screwed. No one else will have the correct adapter.
Isn't is the same one as F-One's?
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Re: Naish Pivot 2020

Postby tautologies » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:19 pm

ThickAir wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:37 pm
Great....another proprietary inflation system. Forget your pump at the beach and you are screwed. No one else will have the correct adapter.
Every kite comes with an adapter. I guess what will happen is that we get pumps, and keep the converter in the kite bag? Doesn't seem like a huge issue. I am used that from another kite I own, and through the years that have literally never been an issue.


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