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Re: Wingsurfing - Intel - forum topic?

Postby juandesooka » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:55 pm

apollo4000 wrote:
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Straw poll - so is anyone buying one?
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At $700-1000US = $1000-1500 Canadian...no.
But if Gong extends its disruptive attitude to this too, gets price below $500, maybe.
And once AliE starts dumping the unbranded clones for $200, probably. ;-)

But the question is posed to the wrong people ... kiters and windsurfers already have a way to play in the wind, with more efficiency, so they are not likely the real market (unless like me, they also have an interest in surf/sup foiling independent of kite).
The bazillion SUPs being sold at costco to lake cottagers everywhere ... all those sunny windy afternoons ... that's where the $$$ is.

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Re: Wingsurfing - Intel - forum topic?

Postby jumptheshark » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:16 pm

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Re: Wingsurfing - Intel - forum topic?

Postby bragnouff » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:52 pm

I'm not buying one, but I'll happily try that and I'm having fun making my own.
I know it won't be replacing kites or windsurf in the conditions I usually take a kite, but there might be some spots or wind directions that become possible due to that contraption, and that would make it worthwhile. Some potential for windskating as it packs down much smaller than a windsurf rig.
Just keeping an eye on it, and trying to be open minded, while being very aware of that big marketing push with ludicrous claims.
F-one team in my ex-homespots seems to be making good progress and make it look more and more appealing.

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Re: Wingsurfing - Intel - forum topic?

Postby scottnorby » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:31 am

Kiteboarding in 2000 was amazing.
The gear was dangerous.
The stoke of adventure was so high.
And when i see this video it reminds me of the first guys to buy kites and brave the unknown.
Dont buy one now and you can avoid being the “first guy flailing”
But you may also miss out on the best part like this guy is feeling.
Sinkstart video
Entire board and foil underwater which was said could not be done.

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Re: Wingsurfing - Intel - forum topic?

Postby bragnouff » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:37 am

scottnorby wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:31 am
Kiteboarding in 2000 was amazing.
The gear was dangerous.
The stoke of adventure was so high.
And when i see this video it reminds me of the first guys to buy kites and brave the unknown.
Not really a fair comparison. Kiteboarding in early days was amazing because it allowed full speed riding and jumps in conditions were windsurfing was just a lame grovel or required some huge slalom gear that wasn't exactly fun either, on top of being prohibitively expensive. So kiteboarding in early days opened up lots more quality water time in that 12-18kts wind range. Foiling lowered that further.
So far, unless proven otherwise, those surf wings require solid winds. In that sinkstart video above, there is a good 25kts, and he's less than 70kg. Sure, there is a novelty factor that is not to be ignored, after 20yrs of kiting, it's probably fun to test something new, and even more so if you're paid to do it.
Just to put in perspective why the appeal isn't anywhere in the same ballpark.

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Re: Wingsurfing - Intel - forum topic?

Postby juandesooka » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:32 am

Fair enough bragnouff. From a kiter perspective, other than highly constrained circumstances, this may be a step backwards. But look at it through eyes of a sup foiler or surf foiler and it opens up similar possibilities. These people don't use wind. Being propelled into waves or downwind swell without having to paddle, using wind power, could be a game changer for some. Or maybe it will suck....we'll soon find out. :-)

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Re: Wingsurfing - Intel - forum topic?

Postby jumptheshark » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:12 pm

The thing is that wings are not really the breakthrough here. Foils are. Without the evolution of the foil, the wing would still be a footnote. So it follows that despite the marketing, the only way this thing is really any use is for foiling and there just isn't that big a foiling market. In general those intrepid enough to get a foil are also adventurous enough to learn to kite/windsurf. I really wonder if this is not a major flop in the making. All depends on how many SUP users get into foils I guess. For them, it might offer something more than it does for those already foiling. For those who think this opens up foiling to the cottage industry masses..... I have doubts. They have no patience for poor conditions, and back lake cottage country is simply unreliable sailing terrain at the very best of times. I see more foils being sold for behind the boat than I do for use with wings.

It's a bizarre marketing push for a niche within a niche within a niche. But hey, it's opened up the world for Jfoil, and she seems pretty credible, am I right?

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Re: Wingsurfing - Intel - forum topic?

Postby ibbono » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:51 pm

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Re: Wingsurfing - Intel - forum topic?

Postby PullStrings » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:06 pm

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Re: Wingsurfing - Intel - forum topic?

Postby bigtone667 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:16 pm

A lot of SUP riders where I live are moving over to SUP foils (primarily because small waves can now be fun long rides). A lot of these guys will buy a Wing.

I am primarily a kiter/kitefoiler, but SUP foiling is lot of fun. I have already paid for a Naish Wing (which I will see next week), because doing SUP foil downwinders across my home lake will be a blast.
But I am also looking forward to using it in cross-on conditions at my local beach.
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