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Re: What's the difference between a beginner, intermediate, and advanced twin tip?

Postby Havre » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:36 am

Good post, but it doesn't really prove anything unless, as you say, others have done the same.

To me it sounds odd if they don't change the design somewhat across the range. A beginner needs a board that is easy to ride upwind and that "floats" well. More advanced riders will look for other characteristics.

I haven't tried too many boards unfortunately. Would be fun to test a bit more. I quickly notice when a board is too small (I'm close to 2m tall), but I'm not sure if I could pick out the "beginner" board vs. the "advanced" in a blind test assuming they were both the correct size.

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Re: What's the difference between a beginner, intermediate, and advanced twin tip?

Postby Herman » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:05 am

Havre. Imho that's the point. In light wind the expert and beginner need the same characteristics it's just that the expert would be really be aware of the weight of a cheap board. A rich beginner and an expert of the same size could well be on the same board.
Arguably no board is too small, it just needs more power. Has anybody barefooted in flat water next to a sandbar in a F8?

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Re: What's the difference between a beginner, intermediate, and advanced twin tip?

Postby Wind Over Water » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:49 am

Thanks all. So it sounds like the main differences are:

1. Rocker profile - beginner boards have less rocker
2. Weight - more advanced kiters may want a lighter board made with carbon

I'm looking for an intermediate level board that's somewhat friendly in light wind conditions. But not too big and bulky, as I want to try jumping soon. What size board should I look for? I'm around 80kg.

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Re: What's the difference between a beginner, intermediate, and advanced twin tip?

Postby Havre » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:55 am

Herman wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:05 am
Havre. Imho that's the point. In light wind the expert and beginner need the same characteristics it's just that the expert would be really be aware of the weight of a cheap board. A rich beginner and an expert of the same size could well be on the same board.
Arguably no board is too small, it just needs more power. Has anybody barefooted in flat water next to a sandbar in a F8?
I'm not going to say that you are wrong, because I am not qualified to make that judgement. However, if this was the case manufacturers (disregarding marketing) would make one type of board with potentially two different material choices (one lighter one that would cost more). The more advanced you are - the more flexible you would be to the size of the board.

That said. I agree that too much is made out of this. For beginners - go big enough and you are usually quite OK regardless. I have seen fairly inexperienced riders do perfectly fine on 1k boards that were clearly made for more advanced riders.

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Re: What's the difference between a beginner, intermediate, and advanced twin tip?

Postby Herman » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:31 pm

This is not maths, there are no absolute rules it is just loose description and opinion. There are no hard and fast parameters for the name of any board.

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Re: What's the difference between a beginner, intermediate, and advanced twin tip?

Postby edt » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:30 pm

Herman wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:31 pm
This is not maths, there are no absolute rules it is just loose description and opinion. There are no hard and fast parameters for the name of any board.
Best description yet.
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Re: What's the difference between a beginner, intermediate, and advanced twin tip?

Postby SolarSet » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:54 pm

IMHO

Advanced TT will be stiffer allowing better pop and better upwind ability at the expense of less comfort on choppy water.


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