Contact   Imprint   Advertising   Guidelines

Running Splice Cleat

Forum for kitesurfers
Herman
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 641
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:09 pm
Style: My Own.
Gear: SLE, foils and C kites, TTs, Directionals, Landboards, Buggy.
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 69 times
Been thanked: 141 times

Running Splice Cleat

Postby Herman » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:34 pm

I don't race but I do like trimless bars for small kites. For larger kites I fancy using a running splice instead of a cleat. I realise it is a releasable ratchet and would have to be fiddled out; I can live with that. What I would like to know is how easily it straps in when riding fully powered. Anybody using this system?

tomtom
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1530
Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2002 1:00 am
Has thanked: 17 times
Been thanked: 170 times

Re: Running Splice Cleat

Postby tomtom » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:48 pm

Please send picture or photo - what exactly you mean - words are not very good to describe knots and lines. Try to describe how to tie shoe laces :).

Herman
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 641
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:09 pm
Style: My Own.
Gear: SLE, foils and C kites, TTs, Directionals, Landboards, Buggy.
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 69 times
Been thanked: 141 times

Re: Running Splice Cleat

Postby Herman » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:32 pm

tomtom I think anybody using this system will know what I mean. It probably won't be suitable for the majority but as you are interested give me a few mins to make a mock up and I will post a photo.

Herman
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 641
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:09 pm
Style: My Own.
Gear: SLE, foils and C kites, TTs, Directionals, Landboards, Buggy.
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 69 times
Been thanked: 141 times

Re: Running Splice Cleat

Postby Herman » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:35 pm

Here is what I call a running splice:
Attachments
IMG_20190613_201158.jpg

tomtom
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1530
Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2002 1:00 am
Has thanked: 17 times
Been thanked: 170 times

Re: Running Splice Cleat

Postby tomtom » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:24 pm

Im using exactly same system -so i think i know what you mean - with small modification to be really on-fly adjustable. As pictured - it is possible to depower but imposible to power-up again /without unload lines/. Depower is easy if ring which work as pulley is thick enough - im mean wire diameter. It has do be in proportion to line diameter - at least as thick as line so 5mm line 5mm wire. Otherwise it wont work. I make some pictures. Also you need more line on end and form some handle.
These users thanked the author tomtom for the post:
Herman (Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:33 pm)
Rating: 8.33%

tomtom
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1530
Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2002 1:00 am
Has thanked: 17 times
Been thanked: 170 times

Re: Running Splice Cleat

Postby tomtom » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:29 pm

Also my system is so simple, clean and reliable that it will suit majority. Infact is it so simple that it look almost impossible than no one invented it yet. :)
These users thanked the author tomtom for the post:
Herman (Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:33 pm)
Rating: 8.33%

nixmatters
Frequent Poster
Posts: 355
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:38 pm
Kiting since: 2009
Style: freeride. started foiling, not there yet
Gear: mostly custom made
Brand Affiliation: None currently
Has thanked: 131 times
Been thanked: 69 times

Re: Running Splice Cleat

Postby nixmatters » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:40 pm

Don't you need an extra strap sewn or spliced&sewn above the running splice, so when you pull it you release the tension in the running splice and inner rope runs up and you power up?
Attachments
Screenshot_20190613_221031.jpg

Herman
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 641
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:09 pm
Style: My Own.
Gear: SLE, foils and C kites, TTs, Directionals, Landboards, Buggy.
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 69 times
Been thanked: 141 times

Re: Running Splice Cleat

Postby Herman » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:54 pm

Thanks tomtom it does make you feel Duh! Why did I buy those cleats.
Nixmatters, yes it is a ratchet and it will only release if you depower the lines, I can live with that for my purposes. It may well be possible to rig a release system but I prefer to keep it simple.

tomtom
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1530
Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2002 1:00 am
Has thanked: 17 times
Been thanked: 170 times

Re: Running Splice Cleat

Postby tomtom » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:55 pm

So here it goes to free to public domain - you are welcome! :) Demo is under load. On water with kite it works even better.

These users thanked the author tomtom for the post (total 7):
Herman (Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:59 pm) • nixmatters (Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:35 pm) • bragnouff (Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:21 am) • merl (Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:43 am) • geokite (Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:15 pm) • br44 (Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:19 am) • alpaia (Sat May 16, 2020 10:45 pm)
Rating: 58.33%

Herman
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 641
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:09 pm
Style: My Own.
Gear: SLE, foils and C kites, TTs, Directionals, Landboards, Buggy.
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 69 times
Been thanked: 141 times

Re: Running Splice Cleat

Postby Herman » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:00 pm

Nice refinements tomtom!!!!


Return to “Kitesurfing”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google Adsense [Bot], GrodanBoll, junebug, Kitemenn, Rob112 and 20 guests