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Re: Best lines on the market

Postby MartinO » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:26 pm

I have had the same lines since 2008 and I have been out on the water atleast once a week since then, with exception of the winter months. Same bar for all four kites 6-15 sqm. The lines are Naish standard lines from back then. I have replaced the bar and the chicken loop three times in ten years, but the lines are still holding up well, even if I have thought about replacing them many times. No sand and low amounts of salt in the water around her however, so that might make the lines live longer. Not sure if they are the best lines, but I am pretty impressed with their life span.

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Re: Best lines on the market

Postby Mossy 757 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:16 pm

If you're not using SK99 Dyneema you're using old tech, including Q-Power lines which are something of a novelty for people who value durability over performance; any line that requires you to move from splices to knots implies you'll have to re-rig some critical parts of your control or flag-out mechanism because none of the major brands rig their lines gear with knots this way, they all use spliced and sewn ends. It amazes me that people still recommend a line-technology like Q-Power that is so totally different in the way it works versus stock systems, besides the fact that fully sheathing your front lines means you can never truly inspect the braid for breaks or wear points, you just have to trust that the underlying fibers are g2g and wait until it breaks to find out otherwise.

I've purchased Liros kiteline twice from Greenhat and was very happy with the process both times: https://greenhatkiteboarding.com/liros- ... -per-meter

They even sell splicing tools and pre-made pigtails on their site if you need that stuff as well.

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Re: Best lines on the market

Postby rogue_kiteboarder » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:14 pm

Exal wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:15 pm
rogue_kiteboarder wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:12 pm
Only one option for the best kite lines available..................Q-Power Pro lines.
Alright I'll bite. Can you explain to me in which way they are superior to the SK99 from evan (infexion) or the Liros lines that have been posted?

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Re: Best lines on the market

Postby purdyd » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:16 am

I think it is funny we are back to the future with q power line and wichard shackles.

I wonder what that says about the state of the industry?

It feels like in some ways we are sliding backwards.

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Re: Best lines on the market

Postby evan » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:45 am

nixmatters wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:31 am
evan wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:23 am
.... More so with SK99 as they are way thinner compared to SK75. Only way to sleeve SK99 and have a knot in the sleeve is to use a thick Dyneema sleeve.
Evan, do you know if someone makes sheathed kite lines with SK99 core? And I'm curious what is/should be the best Dyneema grade for the overbraiding yarn
Sorry, don't know it. But also didn't do any research as I don't like the original stuff. But normal grade dyneema schould work for the outside as it doesn't add any strength.

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Re: Best lines on the market

Postby Bille » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:17 pm

purdyd wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:16 am
I think it is funny we are back to the future with q power line and wichard shackles.

I wonder what that says about the state of the industry?

It feels like in some ways we are sliding backwards.
purdyd ---- Joined: Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:00 pm

OK -- he can say that ; guy's bin kiting a while !!

But so have i ; so what's wrong with Q-power , i use them mostly
because of their durability, ( they are a pain at times though).

Bille

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Re: Best lines on the market

Postby purdyd » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:43 pm

Bille wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:17 pm
purdyd wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:16 am
I think it is funny we are back to the future with q power line and wichard shackles.

I wonder what that says about the state of the industry?

It feels like in some ways we are sliding backwards.
purdyd ---- Joined: Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:00 pm

OK -- he can say that ; guy's bin kiting a while !!

But so have i ; so what's wrong with Q-power , i use them mostly
because of their durability, ( they are a pain at times though).

Bille
Nothing against q power. Used it for years.

Q power pro is at least 15 years old. And there isn’t a better alternative?

Or put another way, there are still some crappy lines that wear too quickly and aren’t color coded. And it isn’t from cut rate brands.

We used the wichard qr because there was nothing else, now people are using it again.

Now there is a trend for black and white bars. White on the left. Really Core? Really Cabrinha? Or the 2016 click bar, all black.

Twist release?

Seriously these are things we dealt with years ago by badgering kite companies, What is going on? Do these people even kitesurf?
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Re: Best lines on the market

Postby POACHER » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:46 pm

Well I can't for sure say one is superior to the other but I think Q-power Pro and SK99 are the two best options on the market presently. (that I'm aware of) I have one of each and can honestly say they both make the stock North/Duo line set seem paltry in comparison.

I'll give a better review/comparison when I've had more time on each.

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Re: Best lines on the market

Postby Sun » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:38 pm

POACHER wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:46 pm
Well I can't for sure say one is superior to the other but I think Q-power Pro and SK99 are the two best options on the market presently. (that I'm aware of) I have one of each and can honestly say they both make the stock North/Duo line set seem paltry in comparison.

I'll give a better review/comparison when I've had more time on each.


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This post beings on the MOST SEXY KITE PICTURE thread.

Yes, please do let us know what you think. I was thinking of getting a sample of both to test and see what seemed to be the difference. I am leaning towards SK99 because I think most safety mechanisms will be easier to get working on SK99 than some of the more odd behavior the Q Power exhibits versus normal lines.

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Re: Best lines on the market

Postby POACHER » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:06 pm

Ohhhhh.......... yeah. :lol:


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Not sure if I mentioned it, but the SK99 lineset was pretty inexpensive off of Ebay from Australia.
$180 shipped. Sold the stock lines for $125.
Direct swap, took 10 minute.

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