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Postby FLandOBX » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:00 am
BWD wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:20 pm
1. Don’t be a dick
2. Yield to whoever will cause an accident.
3. When common sense fails, starboard tack is the actual rule. If you’re in starboard you have to keep going until past the danger. If on port you have to yield to avoid those on starboard.
4. In surf be extra nice and don’t get in the way.
Same rules for all windsports.
+1. This.
As much as we might like for wingsurfers, kiteboarders, hydrofoilers, windsurfers, sailors and other floaty-windpeople to know, understand and respect the right-of-way rules written down in some very official volumes, a small dose of real-world practicality seems to be in order here.
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Postby mikesids » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:19 am
Here's a thought. How about kiteboarders get their own house in order before worrying about Wingsurfers . By which I mean staying two kiteline lengths away from each other ( 50m - as we were all taught) in an onshore breeze instead of doing speed runs 10m away from one another . There's some frickin idiots around these days who wouldn't understand what port and starboard even refer to
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Postby bjw » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:33 am
As BWD said...
'don't be a dick'
Let people pass if you have the ability. Don't assume other will know the rules.
Be the dude who chooses to go down wind.
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Postby elguapo » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:44 am
mikesids wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:19 am
Here's a thought. How about kiteboarders get their own house in order before worrying about Wingsurfers . By which I mean staying two kiteline lengths away from each other ( 50m - as we were all taught) in an onshore breeze instead of doing speed runs 10m away from one another . There's some frickin idiots around these days who wouldn't understand what port and starboard even refer to
i'm pretty certain... that 50m rule isnt taught on kitebeach cabarete
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Postby PullStrings » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:57 pm
Matteo V wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:19 pm
with two vessels of different capabilities.
situation like when a kiter encounters a barge
The kiter is on port tack so he clearly does not have the right of way
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Postby 14ToeSide » Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:01 pm
Doesn’t really matter who has the right of way here he will lose anyway!
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Postby iriejohn » Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:19 pm
A suggestion Matteo.
The next time you want to start a thread, such as "Wingsurfing Right of Way", in order to demonstrate your self-evident superior knowledge and analytical abilities, would you please be kind enough to simply cut to chase and let it all hang out in your very first post?
Perhaps not so satisfying for you, I grant, but certainly more so for us intellectual inferiors.
Thanks.
Matteo V wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:10 pm
Herman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:18 pm
It is just another sailing craft,.....
There is no such thing as just another sailing craft when talking about right of way.
More maneuverable craft yields to less maneuverable craft. This is foundational in maritime law, along with some other rules encompassing all vessels.
So, anyone know who is more maneuverable, and thus has right of way?
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Postby PullStrings » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:18 pm
iriejohn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:19 pm
A suggestion Matteo
to demonstrate your self-evident superior knowledge
....let's poke a little fun
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Postby Herman » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:46 pm
I may have misunderstood but if Matteo V has superior knowledge he has not used it very well imho. Imho it is a disservice to say that there is no such thing as another sailing vessel when talking of right of way. Clearly there is and this is the primary rule to consider in the case in question. ( Stbd stand on, windward keep clear etc )
Imho, Ability to manoeuvre is a secondary consideration when establishing right of way unless the vessel is displaying restricted manoeuvrability signals, however, it may well become the primary consideration if the situation becomes one of collision avoidance in which case both vessels should be making every effort to avoid a collision.
The real question is what do you do with a SUP rider holding a lilo?
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Postby james » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:40 pm
John is using something Matty struggles with, sarcasm.
Often referred to as the lowest form of wit (by those that don’t get it) many think it funny or the ideal way to deal with matty when he is conducting one of his hilarious social experiments on the intellectually inferior
It was all summed up perfectly well with the dont be a dick statement.
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