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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby Toby » Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:44 pm

mede wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:50 am
Lighter kites fly better ;)
Those who kite a bit longer already probably remember Wipika and Takoon kites, which were so much ahead of the competition in the mid 2000, with the competition typically building kites like heavy trucks instead of fast and nimble racing cars...
I wish they go back to that!
Way too fast these days.

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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby iriejohn » Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:57 pm

james wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:37 pm
I honestly hope that the kites really are that good that it demands higher price and people actually pay it.

That’s the only thing that will force brands to change what kites are built from, a successful sell through of a new tech at a price that supports it.
It seems to me that the key issue is what percentage of the final selling price of a kite is the raw cost of the fabric, and how much higher is the raw cost of these new fabrics.

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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby bjw » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:05 pm

One thing I don't get is that people have been cheering the move to heavier stronger kites with higher ripstop. So does lighter fly that much better if the wind is good?

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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby Greenturtle » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:08 pm

Toby wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:44 pm
mede wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:50 am
Lighter kites fly better ;)
Those who kite a bit longer already probably remember Wipika and Takoon kites, which were so much ahead of the competition in the mid 2000, with the competition typically building kites like heavy trucks instead of fast and nimble racing cars...
I wish they go back to that!
Way too fast these days.
Gahhhhh it hurts my eyes to read such words haha!
Can’t you just use a really short bar or something Toby :D

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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby Toby » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:22 pm

Greenturtle wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:08 pm
Toby wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:44 pm
mede wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:50 am
Lighter kites fly better ;)
Those who kite a bit longer already probably remember Wipika and Takoon kites, which were so much ahead of the competition in the mid 2000, with the competition typically building kites like heavy trucks instead of fast and nimble racing cars...
I wish they go back to that!
Way too fast these days.
Gahhhhh it hurts my eyes to read such words haha!
Can’t you just use a really short bar or something Toby :D
using 18, inner bar connection, kite set to slow on bridles, 32m lines.

What else?

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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby alfredo68 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:31 pm

Does Aluula new material was being used in the past under another name and different uses???
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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby ORSales » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:06 pm

alfredo68 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:31 pm
Does Aluula new material was being used in the past under another name and different uses???
It's an entirely new composite material Alfred, not sold previously under any other name / use.

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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby Faxie » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:25 pm

Greenturtle wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:32 pm
“The stuffs stronger and thats it”???
The whole point is that its LiGhTeR

Duct tape 8 or 10 bananas to the LE and struts on your midsize kite and report back whether you prefer its flight after this mod haha
Now imagine peeling that much weight OFF your current favorite kite instead... one happy monkey
Stronger for the same weight, so yeah you can make it lighter all other things equal. Doesn't change the way kites are designed.

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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby Faxie » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:30 pm

windmaker wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:20 pm
Faxie wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:59 pm
jumptheshark wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:16 pm
?? Stagnate?

Would think that improvements in materials can only lead to opening additional avenues for development.

Why don't you give your thoughts about why the big brands just happened to miss this new development?
For the same reason that OR is still making "traditional" kites. Till Aluula kites are out/tested/proven and price worthy nobody missed out on nothing!
Yep, the big brands are sitting this one out. Because their current share is good and they can keep making the same basic designs with minor material adjustments and people will still buy it. And when the time is right, they'll switch to Aluula or similar too. That was kinda my point.

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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby Faxie » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:35 pm

ORSales wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:06 pm
alfredo68 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:31 pm
Does Aluula new material was being used in the past under another name and different uses???
It's an entirely new composite material Alfred, not sold previously under any other name / use.
How does the weave hold up after a long washing machine session? If it's uhmwpe based, that could be a point for concern in the long run I guess?

Have you made an exact similar kite with Aluula? What were the differences? (might be mentioned before, haven't read everything...)

Good you're trying new stuff though :thumb:


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