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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby ORSales » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:22 pm

purdyd wrote:
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Hi guys, thanks for all the questions and interest... I'll do my best to address them all.

Just for clarification the email says
Starting this fall and extending through the early winter, BLACK kites will be available for consumer trials at a worldwide network of demo centers. This taste of what's to come will be followed by a staged consumer rollout of a full range of BLACK kites starting in spring, 2020.

Consumers having registered an Ocean Rodeo kite purchased anytime after January 1, 2018 will be given early priority for this staged rollout. Together with this registration list, consumers will be given the opportunity to also place a fully refundable deposit on a BLACK kite starting in the late winter, after having demo'd a kite.
So it looks like you demo the kite and late winter you put down a deposit for delivery in Spring I suppose that could be June. And if you don’t own an OR kite it could be later as you would not have priority.

I don’t see a problem with that as long as you are clear in when the kites can be ordered will be delivered and that doesn’t seem to be the case right now.

A lightweight aluula roam sounds like a perfect kite for me as I foil and wave kitesurf but if it is year or more until I code get one, I need to plan accordingly, there is a lot of kitesurfing between now and then.
Thanks Purdyd, I'm sorry if I confused you.

We've been working with these materials for years. People close to the company have had the chance to demo various versions of kites built with these new materials and all of them have been incredibly excited by the results. The plan with the fall roll out of demo kites is to expand this exposure and to really awaken the world's interest in the potential of the materials.

Later in the fall / early winter we will have a much better sense of interest / demand in the product plus a sense of timing for delivery of consumer ready products. It is at that time that we will start to put a more clearly defined timeline together for the consumer sales but our goal is late winter / early spring. So, even if you do none of the aforementioned things to get on the early mailing list, etc, Spring 2020 is still realistic for you to have a new kite.

As mentioned too, our conventional material kites are already the lightest 3 strut kites available. It could be interesting for you to consider trying one of our 2019 or 2020 kites as an introduction to the brand, our build quality, etc and to then use the trade in option to swap up to a BLACK kite when they are available.
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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby purdyd » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:32 am

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As mentioned too, our conventional material kites are already the lightest 3 strut kites available. It could be interesting for you to consider trying one of our 2019 or 2020 kites as an introduction to the brand, our build quality, etc and to then use the trade in option to swap up to a BLACK kite when they are available.
Thanks for the response.

lets talk about this because that is obviously an option and I appreciate you bringing it up.

Did I miss the 2020 roam roll out? What is the weight of the 8 meter?

Is there any correlation between the 2020 roam and the aluula version, bar pressure? Turning speed?

How generous is the trade in on a 2020 kite?

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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby Osprey1 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:25 am

I can’t wait to get a 12m flite. My new home spot is at 5100 feet elevation in the mountains and is typically somewhat gusty. Having a kite that can still fly when it drops below 8 for periods at a time yet be stable in gusts of 20+ will be a game changer for me.

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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby kiteclub_gr » Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:48 am

Hello Kiters,

Angelos from kiteclub.gr here. For the past 10 years we have had the luck to be the Greek distributors of Ocean Rodeo. In all these year we had the opportunity to see and try all the new things OR had to offer to the kite industry. Vesturi, FST, Flite (The besy and ligther light wind kite), the stick and the swift bar. But never before have we been so excited to try something like the ALLULA. We believe it is a real revolution and if all is as described (lighter and stronger kites), it could mean a big evolution in the industry.

As kiteclub.gr we always support the revolutionary try-outs of OR, so we will try to be the first ones that can offer you a kite made from aluula for a test flight. We hope in the following weeks to have the first kites for demo use.

Having said that, whoever would like to try out the allula, they will be welcomed to stay over at our beach house for a few nights, free of charge.

Our beach house is located 15min from the National airport Eleftherios Venizelos, 50meters from the beach and a 5min walk from the kite spot. Grab only your harness and come try with us the new industry changer.

For enquiries you can send us a pm or email at sales@kiteclub.gr
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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby ORSales » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:54 pm

Purdyd, the official announcement for the new 2020 line up will be next week at the AWSI / GKA meeting. Trade in value is typically between 50-60% on a kite that's in good condition and less than 1 year old. It falls off to about 30% on a 2 year old kite.

The 2020 Roam (and all our other kites) will be the lightest we've ever built. The whole 2020 "conventional material" line up is gorgeous, we're very proud of it and all the small refinements. Specific to your question - yes, if you're familiar with the Roam's characteristics when you switch to a BLACK version of the same kite it will feel familiar but with noticeable performance and handling improvement. Most notable off the bat is reactivity and loft in the jumps as well as the obvious benefits in light wind or wind pockets. One thing I find super cool is that with the weight reduction so focused on the LE, when a normal kite would luff over and fall from the sky the BLACK kites will fall backward in the window, resulting in them catching a puff and pulling back up... really noticable in pockets or light winds.

Osprey, see the notes above.... sounds like they would be ideal for your location

Kiteclub, (and all the dealers on this thread) thank-you for your support! We look forward to getting these demo kites out to you soon!

John
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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby FlannellPants » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:30 am

Great stuff OR. I’m looking forward to the big changes this is going to generate in the industry.

It seems a shame not to have the canopy made out of Aluula too. Next generation perhaps??

I don’t think I’ve ever seen an OR kite in New Zealand. This is about to change I suspect.

I’m watching with interest and hope to be able to buy one second hand in five years or so :lol:

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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby OzBungy » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:34 am

Hi OR. Thanks for all the information. It's good to hear things direct from the company and not second hand and dodgy opinions from armchair experts.

Not ignoring the revolutionary nature of Aluula, so you've talked about Roam and Flite kites in the Black series. This is great, but it's a refinement on existing stuff. A lighter, stronger kite is better, but it's also same-same-but different. Henry Ford described it as "a better horse".

Do you have anything in the works that might be truly revolutionary? Something that says "Didn't see that coming." I'm thinking stupid high AR race kites, or a single quiver kite with a massive sweet spot that truly does work from 5-50 knots, or .....

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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby droffats » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:23 pm

Nothing game changer here like Aluula.....Here is one small change to the evolution in the "traditional" construction Flites that are out now (V6.5). The last part of my kite to dry was neoprene strut covers. Other brands made them solid silicone. Ocean Rodeo made them better.
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The bridle lines are thinner, lighter weight material, but just as strong. On the 14.5 and 17m we've got the trailing edge has no dacron. Rumor is the V7's will also have an improvement to the "top hat" inflate valve cover

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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby ORSales » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:08 pm

Thanks Droffats! We're super stoked on all the "small little" things we've improved this year. Both from a tactical / user experience POV and from a weight reduction POV.

Oz - we have so many skunkworks projects on the go... so many :) but I can't tell you any of them lest I steal our own thunder! ha.

Flannel - the weight reduction to the kite is most dramatic with the dacron. However, absolutely we see a pathway to a full Aluula kite... all in due course!

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Re: Aluula ? New Revolutionary Material from Ocean Rodeo

Postby Iridian » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:30 pm

@orsales

For those of us more technically inclined, can you go over what exactly aluula is? The aluula website claims it's graphene which I find a bit hard to believe.


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