Wetsuit neopren boots not holding my foot?

[ScoopZ]

Atan.

I use 4mm mistral round toe full-boot and also 2mm Madison split toe ankle-boot.

Pricey but last longer than you may think, great for footstraps and strapless.

[nothing2seehere]

i had exactly the same problem for many years, even the big toe infection problem caused by the sloppy fitting boot.
I have never had a problem since changing to the "dive boot" from decathlon '£13 a pair, not thick rubber, but thinish 3mm soft stretch neoprene upper with very flexible thin sole, and they also have a very helpful rubber spur at the heel to help removal as they do suck on. calling them dive boots is misleading as they are very flexible, the little rubber spur at the rear is to hold flippers on more securely if ever used, but its so helpful for boot removal.
choosing the right size is the problem, snug is the right size for me, half a size smaller than my normal shoe size, i did get a full size down but that hurt after a few hours and was hell to remove, lesson learnt, but at the cost not a big issue,

Was about to make exactly the same recommendation. I have both the low cut and high cut booties. You can buy the snug size as they do stretch by maybe half a size up after a while. I wore mine around the house to get them to stretch

[rynhardt]

A slightly different option is to use wakeskate sneakers. Or one of these Jobe boots.

https://www.jobesports.com/nl/jobe-neop ... 534715003/

You can then get rid of the footpad and only keep the footstrap.

[sergei Scotland]

i had exactly the same problem for many years, even the big toe infection problem caused by the sloppy fitting boot.
I have never had a problem since changing to the "dive boot" from decathlon '£13 a pair, not thick rubber, but thinish 3mm soft stretch neoprene upper with very flexible thin sole, and they also have a very helpful rubber spur at the heel to help removal as they do suck on. calling them dive boots is misleading as they are very flexible, the little rubber spur at the rear is to hold flippers on more securely if ever used, but its so helpful for boot removal.
choosing the right size is the problem, snug is the right size for me, half a size smaller than my normal shoe size, i did get a full size down but that hurt after a few hours and was hell to remove, lesson learnt, but at the cost not a big issue,

Was about to make exactly the same recommendation. I have both the low cut and high cut booties. You can buy the snug size as they do stretch by maybe half a size up after a while. I wore mine around the house to get them to stretch

Thanks nothing2see, Foil.
In fact I saw one of you recommend those in some other thread here and I am getting one if those toady in the post hopefully. The 13 GBP version:
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/scd-3mm-div ... 31593.html
If was not sure about them as they do not have an ankle strap at all so I am a bit worried they won't actually hold the foot to stop it sliding forward etc.
But having both of you recommending it probably means they do work! And being cheap and easy to return /exchange I gave them a try. Will report here as to how it worked for me...

[sergei Scotland]

A slightly different option is to use wakeskate sneakers. Or one of these Jobe boots.

https://www.jobesports.com/nl/jobe-neop ... 534715003/

You can then get rid of the footpad and only keep the footstrap.

Those Jobe look like they would hold your foot securely. Do they work with normal TT footstraps OK?
Not sure where to buy wakeskate snickers and what they look like?
One of those?:https://www.44boardshop.co.uk/wetsuit-b ... qQQAvD_BwE

[rynhardt]

A slightly different option is to use wakeskate sneakers. Or one of these Jobe boots.

https://www.jobesports.com/nl/jobe-neop ... 534715003/

You can then get rid of the footpad and only keep the footstrap.

Those Jobe look like they would hold your foot securely. Do they work with normal TT footstraps OK?
Not sure where to buy wakeskate snickers and what they look like?
One of those?:https://www.44boardshop.co.uk/wetsuit-b ... qQQAvD_BwE

Yeah those mystic sneakers also look tasty.

If you've got modern footpads/straps with the straps integrated into the pads, then you probably cannot remove the pads like with the older style straps and pads.
In that case see if you can track down some windsurfer straps

[badgb21]

Hey Serg,
Have followed your progression with interest (as you know).
I have some brutal honest feedback for you - stop the cause and you won't care what fit your wet boots are.
Pull your finger out and lets stop these walks of shame.
Plenty of power, a good board that will edge upwind, you can do it!

On your next session, ask someone to look out for you, it'll help with the confidence, rig for power and go for it.
Before you know it you'll be holding ground and then going upwind.
No over thinking it or working out mathematical shite, just put some effort/grunt in and it'll be there.

(In the meantime just do the velcro strap up tighter around the center of the foot).

Let us know how you get on.

Good luck.

Kev

I have decent wetsuit 5mm neopren boots which seem quit comfortable on. But being a beginner I do a lot of walk of shames and after a while notice that my feet keep sliding forward a lot as I hold against the kite pull.
As a result my big tow pushes into the front if the boot a lot.
This caused pain and even once an infection of big toe as I ignored the pain. I never had this problem before!

Any tricks or advice I could use?

Another make boot i bought is in the post but I am not holding my breath.
I guess my feet are on the narrow and low /thin side.
May be there are better style wetsuit boots for narrow feet?
Some kind of internal sock?
Ta!
Ps. Water temp is 10c and some stones are always around so barefeet is not an option obviously

[sergei Scotland]

Hey Serg,
Have followed your progression with interest (as you know).
I have some brutal honest feedback for you - stop the cause and you won't care what fit your wet boots are.
Pull your finger out and lets stop these walks of shame.
Plenty of power, a good board that will edge upwind, you can do it!

On your next session, ask someone to look out for you, it'll help with the confidence, rig for power and go for it.
Before you know it you'll be holding ground and then going upwind.
No over thinking it or working out mathematical shite, just put some effort/grunt in and it'll be there.

(In the meantime just do the velcro strap up tighter around the center of the foot).

Let us know how you get on.

Good luck.

Kev

I have decent wetsuit 5mm neopren boots which seem quit comfortable on. But being a beginner I do a lot of walk of shames and after a while notice that my feet keep sliding forward a lot as I hold against the kite pull.
As a result my big tow pushes into the front if the boot a lot.
This caused pain and even once an infection of big toe as I ignored the pain. I never had this problem before!

Any tricks or advice I could use?

Another make boot i bought is in the post but I am not holding my breath.
I guess my feet are on the narrow and low /thin side.
May be there are better style wetsuit boots for narrow feet?
Some kind of internal sock?
Ta!
Ps. Water temp is 10c and some stones are always around so barefeet is not an option obviously

Good advice, thanks. Problem is one needs wind to be powered . Even with 145x48 and 12 m kite and my 95 kgI need at least 16-17 mph to keep going Can actually consistently go right now . With this global warming and sh*t Scotland has no wind, bum!
Getting there now as I at least do not have to wait for a holiday to kitesurf!
The plan is to learn to stay upwind until end of August - exactly as you suggest...

[ScoopZ]

I had 5 out of 7 days last week over by Edinburgh, with more on the way early next week.

No substitute for time on the water, it's commitment that pulls you through the tough stages. Delayed gratification.

[apollo4000]

I fixed this with split toe.