nothing2seehere wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:59 pm
Again I'm not anti helmet and would recommend people wear a well fitting lid where possible despite the drawbacks (lower situational awareness). I firmly believe that helmets can reduce the severity of non life threatening injuries (possibly even to no injury at all). I'm just not convinced that for adults where the skull has fully developed they can change a lethal situation into a non lethal one (I'm looking at the general case not the 1/2 inch nail sticking up that would have been just long enough to penetrate to the brain without a helmet but only long enough to penetrate to the scalp with a 1/2 inch layer of padding in a helmet type of cases)
Ok, so I hope this time I quoted enough of what you actually stated to make you happy on this one. I highlighted in red the specific part that I would disagree with. Actually, I cannot believe that someone would state this at all, but it does "take all kinds".
So let me make this an actual challenge for you to respond to. - Do you truly believe that of 10 different rider impacts of varying force on a nice smooth round rock, the survival rate (likely still with some injury) would be NO DIFFERENT with a helmet, than without one?
Because that would be "bizarro world" insane! A high school course in statistics, along with a pinch of logic and reasoning would bring you back to the real world on this. And you don't even really need to do an experiment or look at case studies to make a reasonable argument against your position. Plus, those studies of helmet use in different sports would be a piece of cake to find and use against your stated position. But back to the simple reasoning, would you rather get hit by a baseball bat with a helmet on, or without one, given the same force applied?
Again, let me know if I have misquoted you on this one.
nothing2seehere wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:00 am
Oh the irony. (Incorrectly) Using a straw man fallacy - AS a straw man argument!
But now this takes the cake. Care to offer an explanation of why that assessment was wrong. I did for you. Can't you do it for me? Remember, "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." - Hitchens's Razor
And just as a disclaimer, don't feel like you are being attacked and don't quit the forum. You are a valuable contributor here and you help spark debate. I am just pointing out the logic and reasoning for my view in opposition to yours.