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Re: Another UK Kitesurf Fatality

Postby Mike101 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:03 am

RIP to another fellow sailor. In answer to a previous question yes the UK is gusty wind the majority of the time. We dont really get thermal winds good enough for kiting unless its peak summer. People go out on storm winds that may be boosted by thermal effects. Sometimes its 'only' 5knt gusts, usually its 10knts from base and tomorrow its predicted to be gusting up to 20knts over a baseline of 40knots in some parts of the country.
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Re: Another UK Kitesurf Fatality

Postby Beardytello » Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:37 am

Mike101 wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:03 am
RIP to another fellow sailor. In answer to a previous question yes the UK is gusty wind the majority of the time. We dont really get thermal winds good enough for kiting unless its peak summer. People go out on storm winds that may be boosted by thermal effects. Sometimes its 'only' 5knt gusts, usually its 10knts from base and tomorrow its predicted to be gusting up to 20knts over a baseline of 40knots in some parts of the country.
Agreed, I live on the Isle of Man, if we didn't ride in gusty conditions we wouldn't ride.

There does seem to have been a spate of fatalities in the UK though this year, in a none morbid way I would like to know what's been going wrong to try and learn from it but I don't even think the authorities really know the ultimate causes, it's not like they have a proper investigation, just "something went wrong"

Anyway, enough of that RIP fellow kiter.

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Re: Another UK Kitesurf Fatality

Postby UKSurf » Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:13 pm

Most fatalities seem to occur in force 6 and above and the UK does tend to rely on weather systems rather than thermals for stronger winds - which can mean gusty conditions. There could be an argument for schools to educate people on how kitesurfing becomes a potentially lethal activity in stronger winds. Although these fatalities seem like statistics when you dont know the person involved, we all probably share alot more in common with this individual than we do with the people we pass on the street every day.

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Re: Another UK Kitesurf Fatality

Postby Bille » Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:13 pm

UKSurf wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:13 pm
Most fatalities seem to occur in force 6 and above and the UK does tend to rely on weather systems rather than thermals for stronger winds - which can mean gusty conditions.
...
We NEED a New kite design , that fully absorbs a Gust ; and lets
the rider feel just a slight increase in energy as the kite
slowly adds the extra power.

The old , (Peter Lynn venom) was 1/2 way there ; when a
gust hit that kite , the TE would deform and stretch-out
to temporarily reduce the power, (automatically lower the AOA)
But
(we Need Twice to Three times that effect) for a true storm kite .

Gust absorbing :
Sheeting in/out for a large speed range ; that is NOT
what i'm referring to :nono: , (it has to be Automatic)
with no rider input.

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Re: Another UK Kitesurf Fatality

Postby andylc » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:11 pm

I don’t have local knowledge but coastal areas with cliffs seems like a pretty bad location for kitesurfing due to the effect on winds. Not sure if this was a factor though?

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Re: Another UK Kitesurf Fatality

Postby Flyboy » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:30 am

Gusty winds are a particular problem if you're rigging for the lulls rather than the gusts. Since I started riding a SB exclusively (about 9 years ago), I'm riding less powered & therefore less vulnerable to strong gusts.
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Re: Another UK Kitesurf Fatality

Postby Foil » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:19 pm

do we know the name of the poor guy?
cant be many kite surfers on the IOW,
I do know two guys who kitefoil and Ttip who live there, but don't have their phone numbers, we meet on holidays, one is in his 50s like the reports say.

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Re: Another UK Kitesurf Fatality

Postby Beardytello » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:15 am

Foil wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:19 pm
do we know the name of the poor guy?
cant be many kite surfers on the IOW,
I do know two guys who kitefoil and Ttip who live there, but don't have their phone numbers, we meet on holidays, one is in his 50s like the reports say.
Probably take a few days for his name to be released.

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Re: Another UK Kitesurf Fatality

Postby downunder » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:10 pm

Sorry to hear.

My condolences.

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Re: Another UK Kitesurf Fatality

Postby fluidity » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:22 pm

Sorry to hear too...

We have very gusty local conditions which can be especially bad in some launch spots when wind is flowing disturbed around a nearby land mass. The general rule of thumb is to keep the kite at about 45 degrees when launching or landing- definitely not directly overhead. Keep a bit of line tension if not overpowered too. If a kite drops in a lull and it's overhead then recovery can be nasty. If it's at a decent angle and drops in a lull then you will still be in control because it will maintain line tension.
I was in a down wind race a couple of years ago with extreme turbulence, I actually had the kite drop enough to form a loop close to the kite which got knotted in another loop and when a gust came right after, I lost 3 meters of line as the very random turbulence induced knot tightened on the loop and cut it through. If it's that gusty, best not to kite at all.
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