That guy is dangerous

[Macster]

Smashed my first Gath helmet in a crash that almost knocked me out (thanks Helmet), and it's saved me from stitches I reckon 3 or 4 times in 7 years of kiting. Crashed thousands of times wearing the Gath helmet including what is arguably the most dangerous positions for neck injury in a helmet, feet first on my back and face down with the helmet scooping water. Toeside edge crashes and healside edge crashes. No neck injuries yet touch wood.

Straps or boots? In wakeboarding all the guys wear helmets because of the obstacles, they crash hard as well. I don't know how much of a difference it makes on the strain on the neck.

While kiting I just don't like the feel of a helmet, for wakeboarding I never saw it as an issue but sessions generally last much shorter.

I have two boards with boots that I use much of the time, a strapless surfboard and two foil boards, one with straps and one without. So a pretty big mixture. The big crashes have been with boots. The ones that avoided stitches mostly with surfboard and foil boards

[Matteo V]

Matteo, you are the common factor in the majority of serious arguments and disagreements in threads in this forum, so either ...

1. You are right most of the time.

or

2. You are not right most of the time, but either have a problem with backing down when you are wrong or are unable to see others points of view.

Which of these two do you think applies to you?

Thanks.

... stuff ...

Right or wrong has to do with the argument made, not the person making it.

Someone who makes reasonable and logical arguments most of the time can easily make unreasonable and illogical arguments some times.

Someone who makes unreasonable and illogical arguments most of the time can easily stumble upon a reasonable and logical way of looking at things.

So if it is a mere question of defining oneself within two parameters which of these two applies to you?

However, since you chose the forum screen name for the jamaican word for cool in front of your name, I am guessing it may be hard for you to honestly choose.

[iriejohn]

Right or wrong has to do with the argument made, not the person making it.

So it's logical Matteo who's therefore right most of the time vs the illogical rest of the world which is therefore wrong most of the time.

OK.

(ps "irie" does not mean "cool").

[dice]

Right or wrong has to do with the argument made, not the person making it.

So it's logical Matteo who's therefore right most of the time vs the illogical rest of the world which is therefore wrong most of the time.

OK.

(ps "irie" does not mean "cool").

The world is not that black and white, there isn't always a strict right and wrong.

[iriejohn]

Right or wrong has to do with the argument made, not the person making it.

So it's logical Matteo who's therefore right most of the time vs the illogical rest of the world which is therefore wrong most of the time.

OK.

(ps "irie" does not mean "cool").

The world is not that black and white, there isn't always a strict right and wrong.

Exactly.

Matteo's problem is his need to see the world in terms of black and white.

[downunder]

Ah downsey! I was hoping we could get to some unfinished business.

He has no third party liability insurance, and laughed about it.

First off, I have never laughed about insurance. BUT I do find it ironic that you are grandstanding about you having insurance over your kite activities. But you have no product liability, or engineering insurance for the helmets you make or tell others how to make? I think you really need to reevaluate your priorities. And what kind of carbon fabric are you using for those helmets? Because most carbon composites are the worst choice for impact protection since they are never good for more than one impact.

I mean did you already forget about addressing this issue that you made an excuse for ignoring just a few weeks ago? You must have a very short memory.

Gonna give up on this? Maybe Toby will like your last post?

I think Ive answered to you. Let us know of engineering insurance and public liability of kites u using? How about heaps of diy kiss carbon bars out there? Your sunnies, certified for kiting? The list goes on. Pro tip, read a disclaimer on your kite.

But hey, I can make stuff. But you? Can u make anything or you just 'talk the talk'? Which is obvious.

You need help. A lot of people told you that already. You are a danger for the community because taking your extreme views internationally.

[Matteo V]

I think Ive answered to you.....

....You need help. A lot of people told you that already. You are a danger for the community because taking your extreme views internationally.

First off, no you have not answered the question about how you can be so proud of having kiteboarding insurance, but you don't have product liability insurance for safety gear you produce.

Second, how can advocacy for helmet use be considered extreme? And what danger to the kite community could I pose by pointing out that safety gear usage is not related to being a "kook"?

[Pemba]

Ah downsey! I was hoping we could get to some unfinished business.



First off, I have never laughed about insurance. BUT I do find it ironic that you are grandstanding about you having insurance over your kite activities. But you have no product liability, or engineering insurance for the helmets you make or tell others how to make? I think you really need to reevaluate your priorities. And what kind of carbon fabric are you using for those helmets? Because most carbon composites are the worst choice for impact protection since they are never good for more than one impact.

I mean did you already forget about addressing this issue that you made an excuse for ignoring just a few weeks ago? You must have a very short memory.

Gonna give up on this? Maybe Toby will like your last post?

I think Ive answered to you. Let us know of engineering insurance and public liability of kites u using? How about heaps of diy kiss carbon bars out there? Your sunnies, certified for kiting? The list goes on. Pro tip, read a disclaimer on your kite.

But hey, I can make stuff. But you? Can u make anything or you just 'talk the talk'? Which is obvious.

You need help. A lot of people told you that already. You are a danger for the community because taking your extreme views internationally.

Extreme views ??? Can you clarify ? That just seems complete nonsense to me, did I miss something ? It's all been about Matteo for a while now, few or no new arguments on the topic.

[PullStrings]

It's all been about Matteo for a while now

The most dangerous guy on Kiteforum

[Matteo V]

It's all been about Matteo for a while now

The most dangerous guy on Kiteforum

Yeah I don't think I really fit the bad boy stereotype. But then again I do live in a van so that I can maximize my kite time.

And it is a pretty good indication that the argument is sound when the banter derails to attacking the presenter, instead of the argument.