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Switch kites current state of the union

Postby alford » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:45 am

Wondering how Switch is doing with their current rebranding of existing kites strategy. How is quality? FWIW I hope they are good but it'd be great to hear from current customers and how things look moving forward.

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Re: Switch kites current state of the union

Postby SimonP » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:47 am

Kite quality is still excellent. I mostly use Elements and Heliums these days for foiling and surfing but also have quivers of Legacy and Combat C kites that are still going strong. The Nitro is popular here as it is good for jumping.

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Re: Switch kites current state of the union

Postby GTC » Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:13 am

Last year I purchased an Element 6 12m (I had already owned two Switch kites previously). The worst piece of sh*t I've tried in years...
Slow, heavy (5 struts) and poor performance in light wind (needed at least 16 knots to barelly stay upwind). Long and floaty jumps when powered up though.

Since I was sure it was a particular problem with my kite, I contacted Switch support. Guess what... according to them the kite behaved poorly because I was using a custom bar (48cm, 4 lines, low Y). The same I use with my other 3 kites.

That's my experience with Switch. Last kite I buy from them.

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Re: Switch kites current state of the union

Postby Faxie » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:52 pm

GTC wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:13 am
Last year I purchased an Element 6 12m (I had already owned two Switch kites previously). The worst piece of sh*t I've tried in years...
Slow, heavy (5 struts) and poor performance in light wind (needed at least 16 knots to barelly stay upwind). Long and floaty jumps when powered up though.

Since I was sure it was a particular problem with my kite, I contacted Switch support. Guess what... according to them the kite behaved poorly because I was using a custom bar (48cm, 4 lines, low Y). The same I use with my other 3 kites.

That's my experience with Switch. Last kite I buy from them.
My guess is it's a problem with your kite too. I flew the 9m a few days in lighter and stronger winds, and my impression was that the lowend was very good. Not particulartly heavy for a 5 strut, but not the lightest either. Reminded me a lot of an Evo. A 12m should be fine from 13-14 knots.

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Re: Switch kites current state of the union

Postby SimonP » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:38 am

Odd. The Elements have pretty good low end. Any four line bar with a low Y should work, I use Airush and Slingshot bars.
Lots of variables determine low end; riders weight, board size, air temperature, altitude, current, gustiness etc; but in general any 12m kite should work well in 16 knots.

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Re: Switch kites current state of the union

Postby Xtream » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:01 pm

I just picked up an 8m Element 6, I have been riding Nitro 6 12M & 10M for years starting with the Nitro 4, yesterday I was on the Nitro 12 winds were 16-20 with guts of 24. This was an ocean session 3-4ft waves but lost of current. I really wanted to give the Element 6 8m a try but not great conditions for the 8M.
To my surprise I was able to stay up wind, get some jumps when the gusts hit and overall I was impressed by the kites performance, but hey its an 8m. My first impression is I like the kite

The bad news is I open my brand new C4 Bar from switch and connected the lines to the new Element 6 and the kite just wanted to make left hand turns, I though the kite is defective, I than connected my Slingshot bar I use on my Nitro s and the kite was fine. So it appears the Switch CX4 Bar has the red line shorter left line shorter than the right side. I have not check it since I just opened it. Now the bar is about 1yr old I just never used it since its a 45CM but man really bad QC from Switch with a new bar. I quickly looked to see if there was knots under the floats but it doesn't appear it can be adjusted. Now What? Switch?

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Re: Switch kites current state of the union

Postby alford » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:44 pm

Maybe check lines by attaching to a solid stationary object. Use adjustable pigtails on the end of your lines to make all four even.

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Re: Switch kites current state of the union

Postby Xtream » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:23 pm

alford wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:44 pm
Maybe check lines by attaching to a solid stationary object. Use adjustable pigtails on the end of your lines to make all four even.
Thanks Alford, I have calibrated my bars in the past, just didn't think I would need to do it on a new bar. That's just disappointing and frustrating when you just want to get out on water.

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Re: Switch kites current state of the union

Postby alford » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:09 pm

yeah, I hear you, that shouldn't happen on a new bar. adjustable pigtails are a good thing to have on hand though

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Re: Switch kites current state of the union

Postby Faxie » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:34 pm

You can contact Switch for free adjustable pigtails


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