jumptheshark wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:18 pm
Kitetwin-1 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:30 am
Still looking for a reasonable minimalistic foil bar, hiw about made in North America. Three times today my trim cleat caught on a steering line while down looping the kite while jibing and put me in the water.
LEI or Foil kite?
If your on LEI, I don't think you really need any trim at all. Have been foiling with stripped down bars for a few years now. Would much rather rig down than foil on a kite with the trim pulled in.
Hmmm, disagree - highly individual...
On a foil kite you dont need the depower really, not much/often, as it delivers insane powerspike when flown, opposite to a LEI, so it can be flown on the frontlines always if you dont race (downwind).
Whereas on a LEI you need to depower the kite a lot, in order to be able to ride when the wind drops in lower winds - as otherwise it will backstall when you are in the water and cant stretch your arms to depower it fully when looped in marginal winds, and you need to power it up again as soon as you are up riding to get reasonably power.
To the OP, I think it is a matter of (short) time till you dont experience your issue with the cleat anymore.
You are learning, and when you say you are fishpoling the bar, even here it sounds wrong as it is never a good idea IMO.
So you are probably turning with too wide an arc, and you get slack lines (thus you think you need to fishpole) and hell break loose in terms of slack lines and maybe even a downed kite sometimes too when it does not turn.
But it wont take long till you get past this point, and dont experience this anymore.
So I would rather ride more and improve so you dont experience these problems
For starters you could try to jibe flying the kite up and around instead, then you get less slack lines.
The depower itself is so simple and small, that I see no reason to "avoid" it - here is my simplest bar:
But I know you ask for "standard" bars with safety leash and everything, so that is another way to go, yes.
Still, it is not about avoiding the depower IMO, it is about avoiding everything "silly" around it, like floats and thick leader lines and heavy big releases and stuff.
And when you learn to ride just a tad more, you will not get the lines around the depower nomore