Reasonably Minimalistic Bar For Foiling

[Kitetwin-1]

This is the issue I am dealing with using a Cabrinha Trimlite bar. After a quick foot switch I aggressivly down loop the kite dead overhead while I am working with the momentum of the foil. It is a magical feeling too hardly feel the kite. Unfortunately the steering line catches, then I am swimming. I have nothing bad to say about these bars for normal twin tip riding.

[grigorib]

I liked Cabrinha Trimlite bars, especially when they were available for $250 buying in bulk. For foiling though they didn’t work for me as nice because of relatively short trim length.

[Kitetwin-1]

I am very happy with Cabrinha bars, the trimlight is reasonably priced and put together very well. For Regular riding they are the bomb but I like other foilers are looking for something very specific. The last post mentioned that the trim range was to short fir foiling, I agree.

[grigorib]

This is what I built this year off old carbon Slingshot bar (yellow winder fork is not there anymore)

[grigorib]

And a similar rebuild of Best bar, here with 30m Peter Lynn lines from my old 13m Guerilla II

[OzBungy]

I am very happy with Cabrinha bars, the trimlight is reasonably priced and put together very well. For Regular riding they are the bomb but I like other foilers are looking for something very specific. The last post mentioned that the trim range was to short fir foiling, I agree.

Very easy to rebuild a Trinlite bar to make give it a long travel trimmer. Replace the bungy trimmer line with a much longer one. Replace or extend the leaders to match the new trimmer line and away you go. Mine has the standard 45cm of bar throw and another 45cm of trimmer. It works beautifully.

I have bought a Kauper-XT Pintxo bar. https://www.kauper-xt.com/bar?lang=en That's about as minimalist as you can get but still have all the main features. It is growing on me, slowly. Loving the 60cm of bar throw. I'm thinking of making more bars with no trimmer and very long bar throw.

[Peter_Frank]

This is the issue I am dealing with using a Cabrinha Trimlite bar. After a quick foot switch I aggressivly down loop the kite dead overhead while I am working with the momentum of the foil. It is a magical feeling too hardly feel the kite. Unfortunately the steering line catches, then I am swimming. I have nothing bad to say about these bars for normal twin tip riding.

Thanks, that explains a lot - this picture is better than a 1000 words.

Is that the bar you are using, or is it an old one just to show the issue?

It looks EXTREMELY short, and indeed I can see why you need to fishpole now

I use 52 and 58 cm bars for all my kites, also the 3.5 and 5 m2, so that is one explanation why I never has this problem. I ditched the shorter ones, or used the lines to make new linesets on the "normal" longer bars.

Now I understand why it happens, a combination of how slack your lines get (partly experience, but can happen for all of us) and a super small/narrow bar where you need to fishpole

I you insist or prefer using such a short bar (small is nice in other ways), especially for kites bigger than 6 m2, yes I can see the the problem, and understand why you might have to get rid of the depower trim

But maybe it is just an old bar not used now, to show what happens?

Peter

[nixmatters]

Possible solution for a longer bar throw (not sure if the cleat would be enough farther away to avoid catching the line) is to replace the depower mainline & PU tube with the Recoil one. Downside - the trim might get far and out of reach, but this also depends on your spreader bar/connection setup and arms length.

Recently I recommended this to a friend and he's very happy with it, costed him ~30 bucks.
If you're interested I can check exactly how much longer is the Recoil vs Trimlite and where to get it from.

[knotwindy]

Move the cleat up a bit
Lose the handle/ball on the end of the depower line & replace with smaller knot & short tail
Don’t go from slack to full pull, sheet in a bit first. If that doesn’t do it, reach up and grab the outside line and pull instead of fishpoling the bar?
Or rebuild a custom as said above.

[geirhn]

This is what I built this year off old carbon Slingshot bar (yellow winder fork is not there anymore)

Hi

I'm looking into modifying my single skin snow kite bar setup . I have used the BRM-type until now, but I think your chicken loop is cleaner with less fuzz.

Did you make it yourself? If so, how did you attach the release pin to the mail rope/depower rope?