Should professional kiters carbon offset their (many) flights?

[kgb]

Utter bullshit, we the non pro kite boarder spaff more pollution through our daily commute and mere existence into the atmosphere than every Pro kite boarder put together.

Virtue signalling that they should carbon offset because they fly on planes? f*** off!

Fix your own shit before telling others how to live thier lives.

[Bille]

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Wherever quality of life is higher you will see high CO2 production.
Why nobody advocates stopping having babies
and therefore reducing the demand?

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'll try to put this in a way that even the simplest , of Dumb-Ass
lab-rats, can understand :

--There are currently about 7.7 Billion humans on the planet.
--They are propagating at an increase rate of about 82 million a year.
-- Each and every one of "Us" humans , are personally screwing up
the environment , in a Bad way.

So how many More humans, can the earth hold ; before a full collapse ?

Bille

[knotwindy]

About minus 4 billion?

[StillLovinIt]

Utter bullshit, we the non pro kite boarder spaff more pollution through our daily commute and mere existence into the atmosphere than every Pro kite boarder put together.

You have numbers to back that up? And don't forget about all the people that use public transportation.

[grigorib]

Hot water, tap drinking water, winter heating, AC in summer, transportation, manufacturing, lit streets, paved roads, aluminum cans, washing machines, TVs, two-day delivery of something you can buy in local store for twice as much, toys which kids play with for first 30 minutes only, clothes people throw away after wearing them short time - everything that is nice and comfortable means CO2 produced.

Everyone who can start reducing consumption can contribute to reduction.
Everybody practical should plan for global warming and how to live with it

[kgb]

Utter bullshit, we the non pro kite boarder spaff more pollution through our daily commute and mere existence into the atmosphere than every Pro kite boarder put together.

You have numbers to back that up? And don't forget about all the people that use public transportation.

Sorry? You think that 100 “pro” kite boarders put more shit into the atmosphere than the rest of the kite boarding world going about their daily lives?

How many flights do you think they take?

[StillLovinIt]

Utter bullshit, we the non pro kite boarder spaff more pollution through our daily commute and mere existence into the atmosphere than every Pro kite boarder put together.

You have numbers to back that up? And don't forget about all the people that use public transportation.

Sorry? You think that 100 “pro” kite boarders put more shit into the atmosphere than the rest of the kite boarding world going about their daily lives?

How many flights do you think they take?

All these calculations have always been per person.

[marlboroughman]

I am surprised there are not more kiters going to the beach on motorcycles with these new super short foil boards. I did it with a 128 twin tip and it only stack out a little beyond panniers. These new foilboards go across well within the width of the luggage. So you can do both, claim carbon credit and feel like flying F16 to the beach.

Illegal by the Law.

Might work only on bicycle in many countries.

eh?

[BWD]

Since this thread, and the guppies who swallow climate bait, haven’t died yet,
I volunteer to be the receiver for all the kitesurfer carbon credits.
Promise to put them to good use!
Pay me your carbon fees and feel no guilt when you arrive back from the tropics to a toasty warm home up north! No need to turn the thermostat down, just pay up suckers!

[foilholio]

The left winger in me says I hope that dog has a helmet. So you know it can remain conscious and suffer longer should there be a hiccup.

...

Wherever quality of life is higher you will see high CO2 production.
Why nobody advocates stopping having babies
and therefore reducing the demand?

...

'll try to put this in a way that even the simplest , of Dumb-Ass
lab-rats, can understand :

--There are currently about 7.7 Billion humans on the planet.
--They are propagating at an increase rate of about 82 million a year.
-- Each and every one of "Us" humans , are personally screwing up
the environment , in a Bad way.

So how many More humans, can the earth hold ; before a full collapse ?

Bille

About minus 4 billion?

Probably right, depends on how much you care about other life on the planet. The math is simple more humans=less other things. The climate Nazis kinda ignore that Elephant in the room. Increasing population but reducing CO2 ain't going to reduce the strain on the natural world, more species will continue to disappear. In fact CO2 is showing to improve the natural world, more plants etc, but I digress.

If you want to reduce the population there is 2 ways births or deaths. Births seem wonderfully civilized but there is still a host of problems like who's babies? Do you do it like old Hitler and select for specified traits? Or like the Chinese and only the elites get more kids? Infact the only reasonable way I think would be to increase the pressures generally on reproducing. The great conundrum the Illuminati face is they both want to engage in preserving life through things like free health care and vaccination but also want to depopulate the planet to save the wildlife. It's some form of insanity, not being a psycho professional I can't diagnose it. I think Hitler had a similar affliction, he was strong on the depopulate while saving the trees thing.

At the end of the day one solution for depopulation has shown itself repeatably effective and that's war or maybe disease or maybe both. If you were to scourer the basements of some DoD facilities you would find multiple tools for that end. The pressure to use them are fast building, a ala WWW3 seems inevitable. Actual climate change, man made or other, would be an absolute trigger. For that end having a model that is actually accurate for the climate would be really quite valuable if you want to be say a bit ahead of the others.

The sad thing in this all is the planet highly likely can support a lot more life human or other, climate and fossil records seem to support this. Not to mention other planets, areas in the solar system, other solar systems and even galaxies. If we could just control ourselves we are on the cusp of opening up quite literally a universe of possibilities. You can demonize authoritarian regimes like the Nazis or Soviets, who's flaws are grave and disgusting, but if someone or some people don't take the reigns of control over things I am quite certain it ain't going to wander into a lovely ending for most of us. A large war is basically guaranteed at this point, the makings are quite clearly going on for a while now. If we come out of it and somewhat survive, things are going to be much harder for anyone left and progress in all areas will be pushed back a long way. Some will survive that is certain, but we do have a clock for our extinction ticking and the rest of life on the planet does too. You can worry about this or that species going extinct but it all means squat if we don't ,or some other species after us doesn't get off this rock.

Pray to God or maybe some aliens for a helping hand because it would nice. Maybe they are watching, and well we need to pass some threshold on our own before they get involved.. too much

Stay positive it will carry you through the darkest times. You make your own tomorrow.