However, my faith in humanity is somewhat lacking. 36 million people die of hunger each year, while almost a billion go hungry
How about we kill all the Dolphins so they can eat them and not go hungry or die? When they have more kids we can then kill another species for them and another after that? You don't seem to understand Evolution, it involves selection. That means somethings die and some don't, some reproduce and some don't. If you have no selection, i.e. death there is no evolution. Fortunately this is a scientific fact unlike stupid climate models. So whether you believe in it or not whether you try to circumvent it with immunizations or free hand outs and other silly tricks you ultimately will not bypass it, the death is just delayed and the selection is inevitable.
there's somehow a resurgence of people believe the world is flat.
There once was a consensus of experts that believed the earth was flat, sun went around the earth etc. What happened to the people that went against that consensus?
edt wrote:5 billion years is the time when the sun becomes a red giant
How certain are you on those billions of years? Given the few 1000's of Human civilized experience and knowledge?
It's now 30% brighter and continues to brighten as it burns up hydrogen the core builds up more pressure
So you too know whats at the center of the sun? Can to tell me the locations of all the gold nuggets on earth? Are you aware of variations in the theories for the make up of the earths core? We can walk on the surface and dig into the earth, what can we do with the sun? You know how fucking huge it is? I mean come on engage some logic edt! Be just a little skeptical of things. I tell you the only thing I am quite certain about is how little we actually know.
edt wrote:Humans have only existed for 200,000 years
It can be argued we have been around longer than that, the difference between hominids is not that great given some of the remaining dna from other hominids and suspected interbreeding.
There is literally nothing we can do to save the earth other than real sci fi stuff like a giant space shield
Likely not but we may discover new physics that could say allow us to relatively easily move a planet. Say space turns out quite easy to manipulate and so generating gravity turns out to defy current understanding for the energy requirements for doing so. There is quite a bit still in the physics area we are not certain about. All the big obvious things are well covered but the small still has plenty. Gravity and space are two things that if we could discover new things about them would possibly open scifi things up. For that the more people ,and the more smart the people we have looking at these areas the more likely something will be turned up, like looking for gold nuggets
Better idea to think in the "short term" on making the earth a beautiful place for our grandchildren to inhabit. I agree tech can be used to reduce earth's cooling i just worry about this attitude of I'll Be Gone and not giving a shit, so the idea of helping the earth is a good one no matter what, plastics, fish, or co2, I like it when people care.
Yep I love living in a nice environment, plastics are actually a huge problem for that. Teflon is in nearly everyone's blood on the planet. https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/ne ... ood-stream
. There is a logic disconnect from you. You recognize the impending doom for the planet ,and all on it from outside causes like the sun or maybe other things, you also recognize that life is not a single event but a continuation from generation to generation. Ultimately all life reaches it's end with this planet, except right now humans have the possibility to extend life beyond this planet. It may seem silly but even if we destroy most life on the planet,which I would not like at all, but even if we did and we some how manage to get us and some other life off and out into the galaxy for basically ever, then all the life that will result and continue will make any damage we did relatively meaningless. Again that is not to say I want us to trash the planet, I most definitely do not. The risk we face from trashing the planet is not the immediate degradation of the environment and are enjoyment but that we by doing that will say invoke a war or some other catastrophe that will set us on a path that sees us and life stuck to this one planet and eventually extinction.
I agree. There is opportunity in everything. (it wasn't "global warming" during warmer periods in the age of humanity though and the Renaissance was cooling - my favourite illustration of this https://xkcd.com/1732/
The problem is fucking with the data is becoming all to common in what now may as well be called pseudosciences. https://realclimatescience.com/2018/12/ ... rm-period/
Are you also aware of the all the evidence that completely upsets the narrative for human civilization? https://theunredacted.com/the-great-sph ... the-sands/
Blackened wrote:Physics hasn't changed since just after the big bang.
What model is your time machine? The belief that rules of the universe have never changed is a theory in science that things are as they always have been. The big bang theory stems solely from observation of movement of the universe, it is moving from a point so it must have come from a point. It is as it has always been. What happened at the point? well lets just make up some religious sounding story about that should we? Ultimately these are all guesses at best, there is no way we have to confirm them, like for what is at the center of the sun or is the temperature of venus, until well we send something there.
I think it is great we have more educated guesses than well GOD WILLED IT, but they are still guesses. They are of actual little help for us, unless they stimulate more thought to find something applicable to now. They actually given discussions like this around climate seem to be a negative as they like religious belief or any dogma stifle thought and discussion. Science can ultimately only prove what it can test and create, let me know when they stay start making big bangs and resulting universes. Yes I am fucking aware of colliders and attempt to recreate the same "conditions" but they won't make a big band, black hole maybe but big bang highly unlikely. It is just approximation of approximation etc. Certainly interesting things will be found, and I am a huge supporter of science in that regard. I am just not a supporter of pseudoscience, social science, economics, bullllshit, etc. Everyone has a right to carry any line of thinking that they want, just don't fucking ask me to pay for crap like Gender studies and SLS rockets to nowhere.
https://www.newscientist.com/round-up/c ... -einstein/
Einstein's mathematical model predicted what we'd see, then used observations to verify.
Blackened wrote:The same is true with any scientific theory.
Correct. The same can be said for most aspects of human belief be it flat earth or god. I read this when I was a young child, by a truly great writer.
https://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience ... fWrong.htm
I think there could be a connection between the mind/consciousness and the quantum.
Global warming is certainly not perfect and there are definite things that need to be further refined
No argument to that.
Blackened wrote:Humans are causing it
Some of it, I would even accept a majority I would just need more proof.
If you disagree with almost every scientist and have some insight on data that has not been shown, perhaps you should do a climate science degree and get some papers published in reputable science journals.
I am not interested to that level. I think you will find Economics and Politics are the most dire problems we face in the immediate. We will be lucky to survive Trump. I struggle to think of solutions to them, I think principles of openness and freedom are the only thing that will work. It is sad to see the lack of leaks after Edward Snowden and now the torture of Julian Assange in the UK. Ability to leak information from real conspiracies that do evil are the only real defense we have against them. The increasing suppression of freedom and polluting of discourse with bots and propaganda is having a toll and will I think lead to the down fall of the current enlightenment. The Navy now has an army of bots engaged in political discourse on things like twitter. It's insane. Only defense is to largely disengage from the worst platforms and harden up on logic skills.
MaximumAC wrote:Pepe meme = instant disqualification
Always nice for antifa/sjw to self identify. You can hide behind masks but so easy to trigger!