Honest advice lol

[Do-it]

You can't have a yank hybrid kite that also loops well?

I’m failing to see any kite loops. If you are referring to landing loops please exit conversation.

[Leon van Bergen]

You can't have a yank hybrid kite that also loops well?

I’m failing to see any kite loops. If you are referring to landing loops please exit conversation.

1:15? 2:06? If you think that are heliloops please exit conversation.

[BudhaNl]

As I was on the water as well when that video was taken (hi Erik ) I can testify that there definitively were megaloops

[Do-it]

Yeah, I shut off after the first huge boosts didn’t have a loop. There was a mega loop for sure.

[Blackened]

Those are clearly horizontal heli-loops!

[Blackened]

My feeling is that the evo and rebel fill the exact same spot in the duotone lineup both are all around free ride boosting kites. Now in 2016 or so when the rebel was a tensioned 5 line kite and the evo was one of their first 4 line kites this made sense. You had a 5 line kite for people that still wanted 5 line kites and a 4 line kite that filled the same rule. then a few years later the rebel also moved to 4 lines. Now you have two kites filling the same rule. You can decide for yourself if the rebel is better or the evo is better. I think the rebel was better when it was 5 line but now that it's also a 4 line kite like the evo I think the evo is just a little bit better in everything than the rebel is. In any case they shouldn't have both kites it confuses the consumer when two kites are so much alike and they are only both there for historical reasons as far as I can tell because back in 2010 the rebel was a great invention and people still remember their first kites fondly. Anyway, just get rid of one of them, I vote get rid of the rebel.

They're actually completely different kites now. Moving the Evo to a lighter 3-strut, it's definitely much more of an all-rounder. The old Evo/Rebel were 5-strut boosting machines, except, as you said, the Rebel was a 5-line.

2018+
Evo - do everything all-rounder
Rebel - big boosting machine

While a lot of people use the Rebel for looping, I found it prone to stalling on the climb. It's fine if you're doing consistent 12m+ megaloops, but I'm not quite there yet. The Evo stalled on me occasionally, but that was more a wind/pilot problem than a kite problem. Neither has a big yank on them.

I've moved to Orbits for the 5-strut canopy for looping. It also doesn't have a huge yank, but I find it more stable for my 95kg weight.

[BudhaNl]

Those are clearly horizontal heli-loops!