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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby alford » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:18 pm

Herman, good idea! You drilled a hole for the depower line? What size is the hole, anything notable about drilling? Do you think the composite material is strong enough to drill for a 3/16" (4.7mm) depower line?

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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby Herman » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:40 pm

For some reason the 3rd photo did not load. I have in fact drilled 2 holes so I can wrap the center line around half of the rotor head and use it as a 2 line rig. The rig will take 4 mm but it takes time to thread just photoed with 3mm for quickness. I chose to drill under the set screws that are designed to take the load, the screws hold the top of the rotor head on, and judged the position between set screws and bottom retainer. I expect it to take load but I will take it to the local climbing frame for a full body weight bounce proof test.

There is enough room for a 3mm flagging line to run with 2 X 4mm center lines. However I have yet to experiment to see if there is a significant possibility of jamming if the centre lines are slack.

The drilled side holes are drilled @ 6mm and you could probably squeeze in 5mm dyneema at a push!
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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby Herman » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:49 pm

Third photo.
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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby Herman » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:52 pm

Top of rotor with 2 centre lines and red flag out line.
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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:01 pm

alford wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:17 pm
The Gong QR mentioned here, is it this one?

Yes, but impossible to see how it can be connected, need better pictures :roll:

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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby Faxie » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:19 pm

Peter_Frank wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:01 pm
alford wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:17 pm
The Gong QR mentioned here, is it this one?

Yes, but impossible to see how it can be connected, need better pictures :roll:

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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:46 pm

Thanks Faxie, in the video two things appear.
Video #2, the first one doesnt show as much.

The center hole is quite big, two 4 mm lines and a safety line can fit.
And it seems like you can use one 4 mm line only, and tie a knot inside (end knot/stopper knot), which will be the desired use of course, instead of two lines which has disadvantages, except for the option to have a stopper maybe.

Dont understand fully, but it this CL+QR from kite attitude the very same as the GONG?

Or are these just parts like pumps, same parts just printed different names on these?

Do any of you have a 4 mm line tied into this swivel?

Hard to see for sure how much space for a knot, inside.
If you make the knot outside like a loop, the knot would probably fill the hole and prevent a safety line sliding freely?
Was that also your doubt Herman?

Seems I have to buy one only first, and test myself, if noone else have done it yet.

Another advantage, it seems you can just mount a tighter elastic so you dont risk opening the QR by accident too easy, which would be a nightmare when you foil (but an advantage on other boards when in trouble).

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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:12 pm

There is also this one, anybody got experience with the swivel, if possible to use a 4-5 mm line?

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Is it longer total than the GONG, or the same or shorter, impossible to see :roll:

The only pic I could find of the swivel is this:

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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby alford » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:36 pm

Herman wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:49 pm
Third photo.
You can run two 3mm lines without drilling into the outside of the Cab swivel. The two lines would thread around a "keeper" part in the standard Cab setup. (Very similar to how the Gong/Kite Attitude secures the depower line)

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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby Faxie » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:42 pm

Peter_Frank wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:46 pm
Thanks Faxie, in the video two things appear.
Video #2, the first one doesnt show as much.

The center hole is quite big, two 4 mm lines and a safety line can fit.
And it seems like you can use one 4 mm line only, and tie a knot inside (end knot/stopper knot), which will be the desired use of course, instead of two lines which has disadvantages, except for the option to have a stopper maybe.

Dont understand fully, but it this CL+QR from kite attitude the very same as the GONG?

Or are these just parts like pumps, same parts just printed different names on these?

Do any of you have a 4 mm line tied into this swivel?

Hard to see for sure how much space for a knot, inside.
If you make the knot outside like a loop, the knot would probably fill the hole and prevent a safety line sliding freely?
Was that also your doubt Herman?

Seems I have to buy one only first, and test myself, if noone else have done it yet.

Another advantage, it seems you can just mount a tighter elastic so you dont risk opening the QR by accident too easy, which would be a nightmare when you foil (but an advantage on other boards when in trouble).

8) Peter
I have a 8mm and 3mm PU line running through it with no problems. I do think that if you make a loop with a knot, you won't have a lot of space left. Maybe the knot won't even fit... But if you tie a knot at the end of the 4mm line, wrap the line around the swivel and let the knot rest inside behind the edge, it should have enough room for a safetyline, and the knot stays in place due to the body of the QR. Just keep in mind the knot will rub against the body when you use the swivel...

It's the same as the Gong. Kiteattitude makes their bars. Same for the Fluid Kites bar.

The elastic can be replaced by your own, but the standard one is already pretty tight.
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