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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby alford » Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:15 pm

It appears this is possible on the Ozone because both the depower and safety lines are offset, a great idea. It's my understanding that making the CL shorter is not an easy diy task.

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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby jmach » Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:22 pm

If a swivel is not needed, this is a very simple and reliable system. I use a Cabrinha mushroom QR.
The SK Shapes version is nice because it's easier to get 3/16" line through the eye and there's enough room in the plastic housing to run a safety line.
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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby faklord » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:03 am

Herman wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:40 am
+1 for Bragnouff. That was my main point but I was reluctant to simply state it because I have not had hands on experience with this qr.

I will try and improve my communication skills!

I also suspect it would be easy enough to fit your own customised loop!
Customised short loop:
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2 slight issues with this qr:
1) not so easy to reset when bobbing about in the sea
2) the dynema at the free end of the loop tends to wear in a sandy environment. where it is squashed between the pin in the qr and the metal part at the end of the loop.

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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby Herman » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:14 pm

Neat customisation Faklord. Thanks for the photo and info. I can certainly put up with the slight issues you highlighted if Ozone keep it in their inventory at the right price.

Latch releases are cheap and compact but I don't like the ergonomic considerations that I feel are necessary to avoid the potential energy released into the pin under heavy load situations. Tied in to my personal mindset of going for the qr with both hands but that would be for another thread.

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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby faklord » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:12 pm

I’m not sure ozone are still making these as some places have run out of stock. However, the good news is there are plenty about on the 2nd hand market as folks are converting to the click in version.

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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:38 pm

Took some pictures today, of the GONG/AKA and what I was looking for regarding having a oneline simple depower that can be changed or altered super easy and fast, on any bar.


Here is the "normal" way, also easy and you can use it on any bar with a 4 mm depower, MORE than sufficient strength with over 2000 kg breaking strength:

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Here you can see how it just loops around the rotor and back out:

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And lots of space for a center safety line also:

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But to make it a onelined depower, one can do like this:

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And make a selflocking loop like this, shown before pulled tight:

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Like this when pulled tight:

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And the knot can just stay inside and it can still rotate:

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So ends up like this, of course I have shortened it for the picture, but you know how it works:

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If afraid the knot locks itself up when rotating, one can always make the centerline go out of the bottom with an additional stopper knot, then you are 100 % sure it wont come undone, and you can see it :thumb:
The safety line has to run outside, maybe just through the CL, but easy when you only got one 4 mm centerline.


Quite short loop, eventhough the QR itself is quite big, isnt it?
Works really well though :naughty:

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Above are the two ways I use it now :D


But do other CL/QR'ses make it possible to end with a knot on a 4 mm onelined, and have room for a safety line too???

I love the simplicity and ease on one 4 mm depower and the small perfect clamcleat 828 as in the picture, and I dont care if the CL/QR rotates or not actually.

But otherwise the setup on the first 3 pictures are the "safe" choice of course, works always.

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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby faklord » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:54 pm

You could splice a loop into braided dynema line to hook around the ‘rotor’ and then give you a single line to go into the cleat? A long bury would give double thickness in the most wear prone area?

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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby bragnouff » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:56 pm

Shame that you lose room for the safety line when going to single line though. And are you constrained to 4mm or could you go bigger?
The aforementioned Ozone lets you use a beefier line, have a safety line, and allows manual untwisting.

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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby Peter_Frank » Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:06 am

bragnouff wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:56 pm
Shame that you lose room for the safety line when going to single line though. And are you constrained to 4mm or could you go bigger?
The aforementioned Ozone lets you use a beefier line, have a safety line, and allows manual untwisting.

Can you take some pictures of the Ozone inside and how you terminate a one lined depower and still room for a safety?

As this is what some are looking for.

The GONG works prefect for two lines, but not ideal for one, and if there i is a CL/QR that opens up for both options, that would be ideal :D .

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Re: Standalone ChickenLoop QuickRelease?

Postby jmach » Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:17 am

faklord wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:54 pm
You could splice a loop into braided dynema line to hook around the ‘rotor’ and then give you a single line to go into the cleat? A long bury would give double thickness in the most wear prone area?
This is what I was thinking too. 3/16" is about 4.7mm, perfect for single line depower. Splice a loop and away you go.


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