kgb wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:55 pm
Intentionally hitting/tapping someone’s kite in preference to a face to face discussion?
That’s a new low even for you matteo..
Come on kgb - do you even actually kite? If you are not aware that kitesurfing attracts a disproportionately high number of with the attitude "i don't give a f--k", then it is likely that you are one of them. And yes, on the other side there is also a disproportionately high number of extremely conscientious people who kite too. Thus there is a lower representation in kiting of regular or "average" personalities.
Now in my years of experience, from windsurfing, kitesurfing, snowkiting, and all the other sports that I have partaken in, the following holds absolutely true: If a participant is experienced and skilled, but is constantly demonstrating bad behavior, THEY ARE DOING IT INTENTIONALLY! "Talking" to someone who thinks of themselves as being a "bad boy", and revels in causing others issues, is just like spitting on a fish (useless). The only way you can teach this type of person is by "showing" them.
Now I would never avoid talking to someone, who needed to be talked to, such as a beginner or the new kiter at my local spots. In fact, that is what I do more than any other kiter I have ever met. I have given up many sessions and hours of kiting to hang out and help newbies or "new to that spot" kiters so they stay safe and keep my spot open to kiting. This is where talking WORKS. Kind of like when someone is taking a lesson for something they are interested in - they learn because they want to! Trying to give a lesson to someone that does not want to learn or thinks they know more than the teacher and/or does not feel that the rules apply to them.............again, that is like spitting on a fish (useless), or replying to you.
Personally, I do not "touch kites". But I will run someone up on the inside if they have been running myself AND others up on the inside. While this stupid behavior is not limited to TT riders vs directional (sometimes directional on directional, or even TT on TT) it does break gear on regular surfboards. Given that my directional board has unbreakable fins/boxes. I am in the perfect position to "educate" either a TT or surfboard rider.
Or, when a kitesurfer or kiteboarder "occupys" a small section of making it impossible to go down the line, I will push them out and show them that if they won't share, they won't get to use that tiny spot either.
But there are many other behaviors that I do not have an "on the water cure for". Standing in the water at the launch with the kite above them is one place that maybe touching kites (maybe just the tip) could be a remedy for.
Then there is a rule that I do not agree with, BUT I DO ABIDE BY IT! That is the rule that rider on the wave has right of way over outgoing kiter leaving the beach. I don't like that one, and I think it chokes things up at long beach breaks when lots of kiters show up and head out at one time. But again, I do abide by it because when everyone follows the same rules of etiquette, it works. And specifically, I don't want to be the "a-- hole" screwing things up and pissing off others who do follow the rules.
By inferring that I don't believe in talking to those who may listen, you really outed yourself as one of those that won't listen. I am positive I would have to "show" you out on the water, should you exhibit "intentional kook" behavior. But I could be wrong too. We should meet up for a beer up at the Mille Lacs snowkite crossing. I typically go every year.