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Re: The perfect Surfer - Electric - Car ?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:00 pm
by Horst Sergio
drsurf wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:55 pm
The order is Reduce, ReUse and then Recycle as a last resort. For me there's another R word in there, Repair. (I'm reasonably good at that). Here's hoping the Sion electric car chooses the correct R words in the right order. It's got some lined up already. It's ReUsing an existing factory :D
You are right, haven't seen it from that point yet. :thumb: The only worry stays that hopefully they will be able to also "reuse" some of the old workers of the factory and that they didn't have gone away the last years. :-?
But also to me the idea to offer many unconventional posibilities to repair the Sion is a very important point. Just this month I had or let repaired my cars pre-heater, photocamera, laptop. Even if I saved a lot of money it was more about that in all cases the defect part that had to go into the waste was just 0,1 % of the hole product. In the case of the car pre-heater, the with the car manufacturer conected workshop was not even allowed to repair it the intelligent way, but had to do it the stupid, expensive and wastefull way, so I had to change workshop and order parts myself. Hope with the Sion this will become much easier.[/quote]
drsurf wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:28 pm
... C'mon, prove you're not a bot man, ...
Sorry Matteo, but I already asked myself the same, 00101101010010001110110001110100010001011000100001001010110010, you know what I mean, don't you :wink:
Matteo V wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:21 am
Seriously, haven't you seen the South Park episode season 10 ep2 "Smug Alert? You really should look this one up because I I think they modeled that episode after you.
Perfect, so we get the curve by arguing with south park, brings us on the same base of discussion utilities. :thumb:
I would totaly agree that even today we have not arrived the point to separate smug from eco friendly behaviour. But if you want to think about what is necessary and are listening to what south park says today you could also refer to 22e06-7 (which refers to 10ep06 :wink: ) :D

Re: The perfect Surfer - Electric - Car ?

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:05 am
by Matteo V
drsurf wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:55 pm
The order is Reduce, ReUse and then Recycle as a last resort.
Giving an increasing population, and increasing standard of living in the second and third world, and no new environmental regulations put in place in most second and third world countries........

Well, the math just doesn't work out. The above statement just makes you feel good, fills you with smug, and allows the problem to continue until at some point it will not be possible to ever solve.

So once again, all of the feel-good environmentalists are at the root of our future problems. I wish that we could trade an ounce of their smug for an ounce of brains so that maybe there would be the slightest chance that environmentalist would learn from their mistakes and try to not repeat them again. But smug is notoriously difficult to combat.