The 5’ 6” hydroshort would be equivalent to the 2020 5’ 9” pro wam. They would be the same volume and width. They both have a square pin tail and are all around classic wave shapes.Onda wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:39 amI´m pretty sure Vader and Hydroshort is too similar / too much overlap.
I have a Vader 5.1 and a Duotone Pro Wam 5.10. For me, these boards perfectly complement each other. Vader for tricks and small waves (chest hight maybe), the ProWam for larger waves. In larger waves you (I) really want that stable drive and the surfy turning characteristics of a more classic shape. The Vader - for my taste - is too skatey here. And even if the Hydroshort will be more like a classic surfboard, it is still very much "Vader-like".
If I would travel a lot and would need a one-board solution for various conditions, I´d probably test the Hydroshort.
The Vader with its super light weight is still my dream board for jumping and tricks. Makes everything so easy And it is super durable as well. Extremely well done, Firewire.
Yeah, you are pretty much spot on in this analysis, although I'm still waiting for a session with a wave above waist high because I think it will really show it's true colors then. The Hydroshort was attractive to me because I believe it can handle anything in terms of wave size/power/shape that I'm going to be on 95% of the time - that means waist to slightly overhead surf, but still mushy, nothing like One Eye or a steep, fast wave. So, in that aspect I think it is a nice addition to the quiver so that you still have a board that has the quick swing weight and lower overall length of a vader/csc type shape, but can handle bigger surf. The other aspect, similar to you, is travelling with it, I have plans to hit Barbados and a couple other spots once travel starts back up, and while I like the Whip CSC shape in a 5'2", I wouldn't want to rely on it for every type of wave I might see on a trip. I think the Hydroshort has the range to deal with small stuff and then really excel in the slightly bigger surf, hope this helps. I'll report back once I get a larger wave session on it.wara-wara wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:54 pmThanks @BudhaNl & @adamj2281 for your feedback.
Just like @purdyd says i'm not yet convinced about the overlap between the Hydroshort and the Vader. On the freestyle side of things I can understand the overlap. But not for the bigger waves. There is some overlap but definitely enough unique qualities in each board to make them shine in different conditions (on paper). The Dutch waves are not as clean, big and powerful as for example One Eye in Mauritius. So I'm not looking for a performance board for those conditions. Just something mid range.
I have had a Naish Global and didn't like it in the Dutch waves. The pure classic shape is not my cup of tea. The thing that attracts me to the Hydroshort is the size (for traveling), nose (just enough to prevent nose diving) and construction (the vader helium feels really comfy).
I will try to test the board and i'm curious to see what others have to say about the board here.
Nice video......I have the same opinion of the Hydroshort (I'm on a 5'4", 78 kg). I've had it out in decent surf finally, actually yesterday was powered up 9m conditions in waist/chest-ish surf. I"m holding out final opinion until I get a few frontside days, most of our summer wind is on my backside.Kikizme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:58 pmHi from france.
I just bought a 5.6 hydroshort. I am 75 kilogrammes , only surf , no jump.
The board is very light and lively, 3 fins (fcs H4 médium).
Positive point: fast, good upwind ability, snappy +++, turns are / can be very tight . Volume allow me not to lose speed in thé bottom zone (current zone).
Négative point: It seems for the moment ( it my only session with This board ), that it was hard to contrôl the long bottom turn at full speed. Only complain
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If you have any questions . ( quiver : celeritas 5.8, stallion 5.2, BWS gears ...(RIP)).
Did you ever try the Stallion Overhead, seems more comparable in tighter turns to the Hydroshort?Kikizme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:03 pmHi,
I have thé same analyse, I will try another set up for fins: maybe larger for thé central fin.
Have you tried with quad set up ? Large / médium ?
Maybe more stability for carving ?
My FCS H4 had really upgraded my old celeritas but it seems that This firewire needs as you Said a bit more control.
I had a stallion 5.2 and for me This 5.6 can turn tighter but is more instable.
Çan’t wait to snap the lip with it again ... This is really an impressive toy .
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