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Aluula Composites | Episode # 135

Postby ARK » Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:48 pm

Episode # 136

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Re: Aluula Composites | Episode # 135

Postby Toby » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:58 pm

Sounds really interesting.

I wonder what it does to a 18 or 20 sqm kite...

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Re: Aluula Composites | Episode # 135

Postby ARK » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:54 pm

Toby wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:58 pm
Sounds really interesting.

I wonder what it does to a 18 or 20 sqm kite...
thats a great point I should have asked about the larger sizes.

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Re: Aluula Composites | Episode # 135

Postby Toby » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:56 pm

ARK wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:54 pm
Toby wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:58 pm
Sounds really interesting.

I wonder what it does to a 18 or 20 sqm kite...
thats a great point I should have asked about the larger sizes.
I hope someone from OR can reply and inform us.

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Re: Aluula Composites | Episode # 135

Postby foilholio » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:12 pm

I am sure they will be more than eager to push their $$ kite $$.

It may be surprising toby but we have had light kites for quite a while now. Since almost the beginning of the sport.

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Re: Aluula Composites | Episode # 135

Postby Toby » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:29 pm

It’s about performance, not the weight.

I don’t care the weight as long as I jump high and long in not that strong winds.

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Re: Aluula Composites | Episode # 135

Postby purdyd » Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:02 am

That was a great interview.

My takeaways,

Gold for better uv protection

Ocean rodeo is the developer

They seem to have a pretty good team working on this.

No Aluula bladder in this first batch

Maybe aluula canopy down the road

One strut aluula with canopy could be very rigid

This may kickstart other manufacturers to come up with similar fabric products

Quantity production really just starting in Canada and limited production may limit use by other companies

Very good high wind performance

I can’t help but get a sense of deja vu all over again with the best cuben fiber kites

http://www.fksa.org/showthread.php?t=509

The best nemesis hp pro 10m had huge almost unlimited upper wind range.

Unlike what Mr. Myerscough said, the smaller diameter of the leading edge will require more psi to keep the kite from buckling. I used 13 psi on my Nemi hp.

And in the end, the torsional stiffness was an issue as kites need to flex at the tips to pivot.

I still haven’t heard how that will be addressed.

http://media.bestkiteboarding.com/media ... _paper.pdf
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Re: Aluula Composites | Episode # 135

Postby foilholio » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:38 am

Toby wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:29 pm
It’s about performance, not the weight.

I don’t care the weight as long as I jump high and long in not that strong winds.
Well you aren't going to get significant performance boost from just making it lighter. For that you need to have higher AR, lower drag. Currently only foil kites offer this. Maybe what Bruno is working on will bring it, as I think the highest performing kites are carbon framed. So if you can make the tube diameter small enough you reduce the drag enough I guess. Till then I am surprised you don't spend more time on race style foil kites, the new sonic looks good. I am not saying switch just do some more riding on them. PM Armin for one :-)

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Re: Aluula Composites | Episode # 135

Postby nixmatters » Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:34 am

ARK wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:54 pm
Toby wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:58 pm
Sounds really interesting.

I wonder what it does to a 18 or 20 sqm kite...
thats a great point I should have asked about the larger sizes.
Hey Adrian, you're doing a great job with the podcasts, huge thanks! Next time it's about to get technical give us a shout here to draft some questions for you to ask :wink:
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Re: Aluula Composites | Episode # 135

Postby Windigo1 » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:08 pm

foilholio wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:38 am
Toby wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:29 pm
It’s about performance, not the weight.

I don’t care the weight as long as I jump high and long in not that strong winds.
Well you aren't going to get significant performance boost from just making it lighter. For that you need to have higher AR, lower drag. Currently only foil kites offer this. Maybe what Bruno is working on will bring it, as I think the highest performing kites are carbon framed. So if you can make the tube diameter small enough you reduce the drag enough I guess. Till then I am surprised you don't spend more time on race style foil kites, the new sonic looks good. I am not saying switch just do some more riding on them. PM Armin for one :-)
I flew a 10M Roam Aluula last week-end you do get a benefit from the reduced weight the kite being so light has a lot less inertia it makes everything smoother you barely feel the gusts in the bar and it's super responsive. In extreme light wind when kites are about to fall from the sky they become very unresponsive the Aluula kite doesn't do that. You basically get the weight of a foil kite with better rigidity than a regular inflated kite.
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