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Foil kites on wet beaches

Postby Herman » Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:40 am

Would the foil kite kitesurfers out there still choose a foil kite if their usual launch was a wet beach?

Any tips for handling foils in the wet?
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Re: Foil kites on wet beaches

Postby StillLovinIt » Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:30 am

Post your question in Foil Kites.

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Re: Foil kites on wet beaches

Postby Herman » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:07 am

^^^ This is a question for kitesurfers, but thanks for your contribution!

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Re: Foil kites on wet beaches

Postby joriws » Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:19 am

Why wet beach would matter? Closed cell (at least Flysurfer, not sure if you are thinking about Pansh or similar) foil kite can be launched from the water by unrolling kite to float at water surface. If wet beach makes some sand to stick kite fabric, sand would also stick to LEI, and sand would drop after flying/wind dries the kite. If water enters foil kite (closed cell) it most probably will get out on wing tip's drainage system.

I've launched foil kite in rain, wet grass, wet sand, wet ice, wet snow.

Just dry the kite like you would dry any kite to prevent discoloring or mold.

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Re: Foil kites on wet beaches

Postby Herman » Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:21 pm

Joriws

Thanks joriws that is what I was hoping to hear. Most of my experience with wet foils has been with cheap or very old foils and the wet has been very detrimental to their performance. I guessed that descent canopy cloth would be ok but was looking for some reassurance.

Thanks again! Regards Herman.

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Re: Foil kites on wet beaches

Postby Janus » Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:31 pm

Years ago I didn’t like the flying behavior of (bigger) wet foil kites. I mean wet.. raining wet.. and sand sticking everywhere.. the looping thing was evolving and that was also a minor point..
So sold my foils.. and went for tubes again.

Then my son tried a Soul 10 in 2018 (he was then 13yr) he fell for it.. I tried Souls and Sonics then also. 10 kts and a TT, he was kiting. (And I was having a blast on a Sonic 18 and a TT.. Overpowerd, big sprays, thought I had to come in for a smaller kite... but nope.. 10 kts)
We share a quiver of old tubes and Souls now 6, 10 and 12m, great kites.
My son needs around 12kts now with the 12m and TT.
Fabric changed and wet flying characteristics don’t differ from the dry fabric that much and the coating makes it very slippery and non sticky for sand.
I don’t kite in the rain anymore, I hate it.
Now looking at the Peaks for foiling also, have to try them first.

By wet beach you mean the hard pack sand? That’s not really sticky so really not a problem.
Don’t put the kites away wet and sandy, not good for any kite in the long run.

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Re: Foil kites on wet beaches

Postby Herman » Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:40 pm

Thanks for the info Janus, very useful. My usual area is hard packed sand and so peeling the kite off usually leaves it pretty clean, if there is plenty of water. Just sometimes I can't avoid the wet. Thanks again. Regards Herman.
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Re: Foil kites on wet beaches

Postby TomW » Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:59 pm

I have similar launches and kite all winter, and it's wet a lot here.
It's basically same hassle as an Lei. Kite gets a lot of sand on it. So I unpack it at home in my cellar, just drape it loosely folded over an old chair, with bar to the side. It drys overnight And I shake off the sand an roll it up a day or two later. I'm using Hyperlink V1 with UL and regular fabric and new V2 with the slick fabric. Doesn't make much difference. My V1 UL 9m has like 200 hours on it and it soaks up water easier, but it's still not a problem. I kite with it in a drizzle too.
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Re: Foil kites on wet beaches

Postby Foil » Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:02 am

I have flown my chronos and hyperlinks in rain and was surprised at the very minor drop in performance, almost undetectable, just as when I have dropped my kite in the water, I just check for water leaving the tip ends after relaunch,if any, and take the kite over from one side to other to ensure any water has drained out and then carry on flying as normal,
sticky sand is another thing, and affects tube kites just the same, heavy slow kite for both kite types, yuck!
fast flying and constant hard bar pulls to shake the sand free, water is not a problem, wet sticky sand is for any kite.

A tip I recently picked up off the race pros-
after dunking a foil kite good and proper, getting water inside, then come ashore after the outside skin has dried off a bit then land and open all vents, even the massive zip vents on the ozone kites, relaunch and fly on the beach with good hard turns and looping,
this forces air to rush through the kite and dry out the internal cells very much more quickly, I tried it on my dry chrono kites to see if the kite was still stable with the vents open, yes it was, almost no difference really.
great drying tip.
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Re: Foil kites on wet beaches

Postby dave1986 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:24 am

I have the luxury of owning both a 13m Ozone Chrono V3 Ultralight and a 12m Naish Boxer (Single strut). They both have their own advantages/disadvantages for different conditions.

The Chrono will fly in much lower winds than the boxer, and easily get me riding on my Moses 633 in under 7mph winds where the Boxer will barely fly. But when the beach is very wet, or it's forecast to rain I would personally rather not have to hassle of drying out a wet foil kite. I'm also nervous flying the Chrono in big waves as it's likely to be less durable.

So if the beach is very wet with puddles, or there is a chance of rain or big waves then I use the Boxer.
If it's dry and small/no waves or if I'm looking for ultimate low-wind performance (5 to 8 mph) then I use the Chrono.

It appears that other people are less cautious than me about getting their foil kites wet, so I guess much if this is personal preference on how careful you want to be with your equipment.
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