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Re: covid 19 closing beaches, any more to report?

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:34 pm
by Frankieboy
On the other hand they encouragepeoplegetting some exercice like walking, running and BIKING
Whith everybody home and going for a bike ride they will get a lot of accidents.

Re: covid 19 closing beaches, any more to report?

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:40 pm
by Frankieboy
dice wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:38 pm
Frankieboy wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:56 pm
It is banned in Belgium. I got an e-mail from the federation to clarify a decision which was subject to interpretation.

They don't give any specific reason but in Belgium you are only allowed to kite in front of a club (and be a member with insurance etc etc).
And clubs are closed so that people don't come together.
So this makes sence.
There are 2 reasons. The availability of the rescue teams. And keeping the injuries as low as possible, because an injured kiter might use a hospital room that could've been used for a corona patient.
It's a bit too hard measurement for something so little, but desperate times, desperate measurements I guess.

The beach clubs were closed a couple days before the watersports ban.
problem is not the # of rooms but assisted breathing units.

still frustrating (but necesseray!), I need to close my business by tomorrow 12:00 and stay home which is 200m from the sea with perfect foil conditions... but it will be a no go.

we will see # of posts exploding in the coming weeks :-)

Re: covid 19 closing beaches, any more to report?

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:37 am
by Bille
Screw That ; get in a boat, and go out far enough off-shore, that the police
can't Fu(k with Ya !!

Bille

Re: covid 19 closing beaches, any more to report?

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:44 am
by Exal
This thread is so much fun. All you guys talking about how it is no big deal, just wait another week :roll: Just depends where you are in the world right now. Sht doesn't get real until you can see it, I get it, I was the same.

Re: covid 19 closing beaches, any more to report?

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:46 am
by br44
A bit long but interesting. According to this, there is a chance that it might all be for nothing.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-f ... able-data/

Re: covid 19 closing beaches, any more to report?

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:17 am
by StillLovinIt
IMHO, this article was pretty bad. Too much emphasis on the Diamond Princess sample set which is too small to deduce anything meaningful. And he pretty much ignores the data and deaths from China, South Korea and Italy.
Also, his numbers are extremely low compared to the rest of the scientific commmunity (...and that 1% of the U.S. population gets infected...).
br44 wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:46 am
A bit long but interesting. According to this, there is a chance that it might all be for nothing.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-f ... able-data/

Re: covid 19 closing beaches, any more to report?

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:19 am
by StillLovinIt
https://twitter.com/joshmich/status/1239722556023812098
What both groups of authors point to is that the China/South Korea model of intense testing and case-finding, home isolation and quarantine, along with social distancing, is likely the most promising combination of interventions available for countries to address COVID19.

The author is referencing the two papers below:


16 March 2020
Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team
Impact of non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) to reduce COVID- 19 mortality and healthcare demand

Overall, our results suggest that population-wide social distancing applied to the population as a whole
would have the largest impact; and in combination with other interventions – notably home isolation
of cases and school and university closure – has the potential to suppress transmission below the
threshold of R=1 required to rapidly reduce case incidence. A minimum policy for effective suppression
is therefore population-wide social distancing combined with home isolation of cases and school and
university closure.

Science, 16 Mar 2020
Substantial undocumented infection facilitates the rapid dissemination of novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV2)

Re: covid 19 closing beaches, any more to report?

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:28 am
by alunj
The uk paper suggest the measures will stay in place on and off after an initial 3 months until there is a vaccine
Each time restrictions are relaxed the fire will burn again
In fact the modelling from the IC group shows a sever peak in November if you managed to suppressed completely now . Schools go back in September and wham ....
We look like we will be living with this for 12-18 months at least

Re: covid 19 closing beaches, any more to report?

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:00 am
by Toby
Interesting who gonna be the first with medicine for it...

Chinese are testing a new product now, Israelis have something, US is working with an Ebola product and the Germans say they have something in few months.

Pretty sure Germany will be last due to too much bureaucracy...

Re: covid 19 closing beaches, any more to report?

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:14 am
by Sgallian
StillLovinIt wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:17 am
IMHO, this article was pretty bad. Too much emphasis on the Diamond Princess sample set which is too small to deduce anything meaningful. And he pretty much ignores the data and deaths from China, South Korea and Italy.
Also, his numbers are extremely low compared to the rest of the scientific commmunity (...and that 1% of the U.S. population gets infected...).
br44 wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:46 am
A bit long but interesting. According to this, there is a chance that it might all be for nothing.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-f ... able-data/
Well, I do not totally endorse this article, but I do find one point interesting: the re-evaluation of the mortality rate.
In Romania, there are a few confirmed cases (and no death yet), BUT very little testing. From what I understand, only people that present the symptoms AND may have been in contact with infected people are tested. So there are surely way more cases than those confirmed around...
And where there has been the most testing, the mortality rate is below 1%: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covi ... on-people"

Anyway, this is not the main issue, the hospitalization rate is the real problem, and as such, this cannot be compared to influenza... And Italy proved that if the hospitals are full, the death rate climbs up...
So stay home, stay safe :)