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Re: Infexion Max bar / Seatbelt Quick Release

Postby knot_moving » Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:21 pm

Why I used the roller:
I've had Dakine's first sliding hook that didn't slide, and I had the Dakine option hook that would slide and then jam on the ends.
-- so I wanted to be sure it would slide smoothly. Was out in 15-25 kts on a 10m today. It was very smooth the way it worked. Glad to hear it was maybe overkill. Because I bought the d-shackle I think I'm committed to using something like this.

The QR works great & I love the micro leash.
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Re: Infexion Max bar / Seatbelt Quick Release

Postby Huib » Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:58 am

ieism wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:14 pm
Why are you using a roller in the first place? I just have the version with the fixed closed ring and it slides very smooth on a rope bar. I may have to replace the rope eventually, but I'm pretty sure that will take a very long time and is cheap.

Is there a performance benefit, I'm not noticing any drag or hanging without the roller at all.

This is the best system I've used so far. I had to pull the safety yesterday (started nuking, foil kite started to collapse on one side) and it's al lot easier than my old CL. At first I thought it did not release because I did not feel it jerk as much as a chicken loop would, but then I saw the kite harmonica. I cannot tell you how happy I am with this system. It makes sheeting in better for me, toeside is easier, release is better, packing the bar is easier,

I hope in a few years all brands will go to a similar system, and it will safe some cost when buying a bar because you don't need a QR for every bar you own or replace.
I speak from experience. You don't want ever that the robe will break. The lifespan of the rope is much longer with a roller than with your ring.
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Re: Infexion Max bar / Seatbelt Quick Release

Postby ieism » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:21 am

Off course, but SK78 is like $6 per meter, so I can buy plenty of it and throw a few spares in the car.

I was just curious if it was much smoother with a roller, I've used a carabiner with a roller before and it was not much smoother than this.

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Re: Infexion Seatbelt Quick Release

Postby bragnouff » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:00 am

evan wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:31 pm


Just received mine earlier this week and I'm pretty impressed by the design. And the spring loaded release of the ring when unloaded... almost cracked my laptop screen!

Question, though, is about how you'd mount that ring onto the depower rope WITHOUT it being spliced?
I like using plain length of braided dyneema from local boat shop, and being able to replace them on the spot quickly, without tools. I also like reversing the rope or shifting it somehow to spread the wear. Which is all possible to do when using a ClamCleat's aero cleat.
Anyway, here's some of the options I was considering:
IMG_20201022_134234.jpg
IMG_20201022_134327.jpg
Or make a bowline knot to make a loop/larkshead, and a skateboard bushing as cushioning between the top of that bowline knot and the hole in the bar.

I'm not worried at all to add space between ring and bar, as this is much shorter than my traditional QR, and I like having a stopper for my fully sheeted-in position.
(I can also use a longer spreader bar to QR connection to adjust that spacing).

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Re: Infexion Max bar / Seatbelt Quick Release

Postby knotwindy » Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:52 am

Small loop with a simple figure8 ?

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Re: Infexion Seatbelt Quick Release

Postby faklord » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:44 am

bragnouff wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:00 am
evan wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:31 pm


Just received mine earlier this week and I'm pretty impressed by the design. And the spring loaded release of the ring when unloaded... almost cracked my laptop screen!

Question, though, is about how you'd mount that ring onto the depower rope WITHOUT it being spliced?
I like using plain length of braided dyneema from local boat shop, and being able to replace them on the spot quickly, without tools. I also like reversing the rope or shifting it somehow to spread the wear. Which is all possible to do when using a ClamCleat's aero cleat.
Anyway, here's some of the options I was considering:
IMG_20201022_134234.jpg


IMG_20201022_134327.jpg

Or make a bowline knot to make a loop/larkshead, and a skateboard bushing as cushioning between the top of that bowline knot and the hole in the bar.

I'm not worried at all to add space between ring and bar, as this is much shorter than my traditional QR, and I like having a stopper for my fully sheeted-in position.
(I can also use a longer spreader bar to QR connection to adjust that spacing).
I think both of your suggestions will tend to slip! Also the 1st (with a stopper knot) may block the safety line?
A fig 8 might do it.

An alternative is to split the depower rope into 2:
A) In the rope that goes through the cleat, splice a loop in just below the the cleat.
B) In the main part that the bar runs up and down, splice a loop in each end.

Its dead easy to then join the two (loop to loop) and also easy to connect the rings/ring holder to a made up loop in the end.

You can can make up spares for part 'B'.
It should be easy to swap out a replacement (or reverse the existing part) without any tools. Much easier than undoing and re-doing knots!

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Re: Infexion Max bar / Seatbelt Quick Release

Postby knot_moving » Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:51 pm

Just received mine.
How hard is it to remove the Trim strap ring ring and press it back into place?
Seems that would be the easiest way to do it.

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Re: Infexion Seatbelt Quick Release

Postby knot_moving » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:37 am

faklord wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:44 am

I think both of your suggestions will tend to slip! Also the 1st (with a stopper knot) may block the safety line?
A fig 8 might do it.

An alternative is to split the depower rope into 2:
A) In the rope that goes through the cleat, splice a loop in just below the the cleat.
B) In the main part that the bar runs up and down, splice a loop in each end.

Its dead easy to then join the two (loop to loop) and also easy to connect the rings/ring holder to a made up loop in the end.

You can can make up spares for part 'B'.
It should be easy to swap out a replacement (or reverse the existing part) without any tools. Much easier than undoing and re-doing knots!
Thanks - just used your suggestion to connect to one of my bars.

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Re: Infexion Max bar / Seatbelt Quick Release

Postby ieism » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:42 am

I've not touched my depower trim since I'm using this qr. I think its because everything is closer so I can always fully sheet out within arnslength.

Are there people not using a clamcleat at all and just using a simple rope?

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Re: Infexion Seatbelt Quick Release

Postby faklord » Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:57 am

knot_moving wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:37 am
faklord wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:44 am

I think both of your suggestions will tend to slip! Also the 1st (with a stopper knot) may block the safety line?
A fig 8 might do it.

An alternative is to split the depower rope into 2:
A) In the rope that goes through the cleat, splice a loop in just below the the cleat.
B) In the main part that the bar runs up and down, splice a loop in each end.

Its dead easy to then join the two (loop to loop) and also easy to connect the rings/ring holder to a made up loop in the end.

You can can make up spares for part 'B'.
It should be easy to swap out a replacement (or reverse the existing part) without any tools. Much easier than undoing and re-doing knots!
Thanks - just used your suggestion to connect to one of my bars.
:thumb: Tooless depower line change....another benefit of the infexion QR
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